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Recorder V2.2 (instrument)

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Recorder V2.2 (instrument) by cymon Oct 7, 2011

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EDIT: Updated version on YouMagine: https://www.youmagine.com/designs/recorder-music-instrument

It works! It finally works!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9VdXtTlhCU

This revision includes minor tweaks which necessitated breaking it into 4 parts. Thank you nycdesigner, tbuser, and landru for your helpful suggestion, guidance, and sticking with me til the end.

The recorder is one of the oldest woodwind instruments. In the hands of an experienced player it creates a sound synonymous with Renaissance music. Often used in elementary music classes because of it's ease of operation. With 3D printing everyone can have one of their own to make beautiful music on... or wailing screeches if they never got past "hot crossed buns".

Instructions

  1. Print recorderv2.2.stl with high infill. (Alternately you can print the individual parts.)

  2. Sharpen the edge of the lip to a fine point.

  3. Assemble.

  4. Twist the foot to adjust for comfortable pinky finger placement.

  5. The top of the body and the mouthpiece is connected with a longer connecter to allow for some tuning.

  6. Note that if you start with all holes covered and remove them one-by-one that the high notes are going to sound flat. That is normal. To get the proper tones for all the notes use the key chart on en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recorder#Recorder_fingering .

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My only issue (on the previous version) was that the sections did not fit properly together. I am printing a 2.2 out tonight and hoping for a working recorder. The overall design is outstanding and sounds pretty much exactly like a normal recorder. Believe me when I say that I have a sharp ear too, I play the violin.

Might want to update the model on thingiverse. Cool model, but why are you holding out on the newest version. This model requires A LOT of sanding.

There's a lot sites out there to keep updated. I'd rather spend my time supporting sites owned by companies that support us.

Sorry, still a little Maerkbot rage, even after all this time.

Tried printing it a couple of hours ago. Came back 4 hours later to find a big blob of orange spaghetti :p.
The print toppled half way through and the printer kept on doing its thing. Any ideas on getting the pieces to stick? Maybe print slower?

Any print with minimal plate contact can benefit from a skirt or a raft. I prefer skirts because rafts just feel like admitting that I can't level my build plate.

Thanks cymon! Used a brim, increased the bed temperature, increased the first layer nozzle temperature and slowed the print down. End result: perfectly printed recorder. :D

do I print with souports

Hi

I printed the parts with brim, now I have problems to stick them together (the brim blocks the hole a litte bit).
How can I remove the small parts of the brim without damaging the parts, what else could I do to stick them together?

Be sure I'll post a picture when I succeeded :-)

I tried to print this for my daughter, but the extruder knocked the parts off 1/2 way through. Should I make a raft? If so, what would be the best program to do this?

thanks from a Newbie to 3D Printing!

A raft would help, but a brim would be even better for bed adhesion. Also make sure that your bed is completely level. Hope this helps.

Thanks! I am really struggling to create a brim. I feel like such a newb... I have tried a lot of different software packages and it seems like Meshmixer is a good one, but I can not seem to figure out how to make a raft. Any suggestions for tutorials?

Dec 11, 2015 - Modified Dec 11, 2015

A brim is an auto-generated structure from the slicer to aid in adhesion. This is just a solution to a symptom and not the actual cause of your problem. As Panoreth mentioned, having a level bed is extremely important. If the first layer is too high off the bed, than it will not stick very well. Watch the first layer go down and make sure the hot end is placing plastic DIRECTLY on the bed and not dropping it some distance (even half a millimeter can be too high). Having a heated bed also helps, but this is one of those things you either have or you don't have, so in lieu of that, try using an adhesive like an Elmer's glue stick or very strong hairspray. Either of these two adhesives, combined with a level bed, should alleviate most of your problems.

Make sure that you are turning on the brim in the slicer(I use Cura), I usually have the brim line count to about 7 but you may need to use more.

What is the recommended minimum infill percentage?

that's really cool. I might try that.

are supports needed? i am about to print this in litteraly ten minuets so anybody who knows please help me!

Supports are not needed.

i actually couldn't print this because it wouldn't slice correctly. it just showed a circle floating in mid air. but i love the design!

Did you try scaling it down? If you tried scaling it down it's possible you went below the minimum wall thickness, that's why it didn't print. You can try the empire state building remix of this. That might work better.

i didn't scale it down. what is the empire state building remix?

do you know how many hours 1 roll of .5kg filament lasts

on a printrbot simple metal how long do you think it would take

Printing time varies greatly depending on the 3D printer. Infill percentage, number of shells, as well as acceleration, wipe time, cool time and many other factors all effect print time.

Simplify 3D Estimates this as taking 4 hours on my rep 1, but Simplify3D is notorious for being wrong. Still, it's a number.Anything more exact than that you'd need someone to actually print it out.

how long does it take

This is the 2nd time in a week I've been asked this.

Printing time varies greatly depending on the 3D printer. Infill percentage, number of shells, as well as acceleration, wipe time, cool time and many other factors all effect print time.

Simplify 3D Estimates this as taking 4 hours on my rep 1, but Simplify3D is notorious for being wrong. Still, it's a number. I think on a stratasys you can multiply that by 3 to get their print time. And multiply the cost by 100, though you didn't ask that.

After I printed in PLA it was so hard to get the pieces together that now if I want to clean the mouth piece it will not come apart
Do you know why it was so hard to put together?

Because I messed up the tolerances. You need a little sanding. Or you can download the updated version with better tolerances on the link listed in the description.

I printed this. It looks, sounds, and plays beautifully! However, it's tuned to a few tick above C#. Any geniuses out there know of a decent way to either tune the design, or else tune the printed instrument via modification (add/remove material)? Even with all the joints just barely hanging onto each other, it's still just a tick or two above C.

Congrats! I thought you model was one of the best choices for a 3D Printed Christmas gift! I made a link from here: http://3dprintingninja.blogspot.com/2014/12/top-20-free-3d-printed-christmas-gifts.html

Dec 1, 2014 - Modified Dec 1, 2014

Works great! I'd be really excited to see what happens if it's printed with a specialty flament!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUaHWy77F2s

It says the video is unavailable. Shame, I really love seeing this sort of thing.

Hmm, try copy/pasting the link? Not sure why it wouldn't work!

I really wish I had that wood filament right about now!

Excellent. I did find the top two sections in particular difficult to assemble, but I realise that airtightness is important, so perhaps there is little room for manoeuvre.

Very nice design and with a little drilling and sanding I got a tune from it.

Video here http://youtu.be/XD8evAsqzrAhttp://youtu.be/XD8evAsqzrA

As for the screeches, the way to prevent that is to just gently breathe the air into the recorder. You don't play it like a clarinet or a trumpet, which require a lot more pressure. Neat recorder, anyway.

What software did you use to design this? Please share the source file too if you want any derivatives.

Your wish is my command.

I resisted because (1) it's blender and that's not very popular 'round these parts and (2) it's a mess. Lots of fiddling by hand. I was going to try to organize it once I get my own derivative up, but this is probably better.

I'll try printing this today.

Next we need an alto recorder.

and then a Clarinet :)

This is great. One of my fave projects on Thingiverse.

how tall is the tallest part? I am limited to a print height of 100mm :(

Darn 7mm too long :(

Yeah, a 10cm build height would require segmenting it into probably 6 parts and would be complicated with the finger holes. The current dividing actually works very well, better than the previous version. Right hand on one, left hand on the other with the exception of the pinky that you can adjust however you want.

You could make a 10cm build height version if you want and post your own derivative :-D

This project should be a poster-boy for Rapid prototyping at home.

If at first you don't succeed...

;)

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