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Printable Wool Winder

by MatthewLaBerge, published

Printable Wool Winder by MatthewLaBerge Nov 21, 2011

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Updated Design Change Log - 12-04-2011 -Updated Spindle Base Design to Make Pockets Faceted for Easier Printing -Updated Masters to Include New Spindle Base -Added Counterbalance Hardware -Removed WIP, Design Complete!

Change Log - 11-25-2011 -Yarn Guide Added -Ball Winder Base Drawing Added -Spindle Updated to Remove Mtl -Spindle Base Updated to Remove Rounds & Add Support -Carriage Updated to Remove Mtl & Add Spacer -Spindle Updated to Add Support -Updated all STL Files -Added Creo (Pro/E) Native CAD Files -Added Exploded Assembly Views -Updated Parts/Fastener List

This printable wool winder creates center-pull balls from raw hanks of yarn, it must be used in combination with a yarn swift, I will work on a printable swift in the future.

I designed this winder for my mother who was having troubles with her current ball winder, a new equivalent winder was priced around $50. I felt like I could design and make a better winder for only a few $ in purchased parts (most I had around) and plastic. Plus I know how it works so if it breaks I can fix it.

The winders function is pretty simple but really fun to watch. The motion of the winder can be explained as such. The hand crank, when turned causes the center carriage mechanism to rotate around a stationary cone. The motion of the carriage in combination with the stationary cone causes the winding spindle to rotate about its axis. The winding spindle completes one rotation for every nine rotations of the hand crank. The dual spinning motion of the carriage and the spindle is what causes the yarn to take the form of a cylinder.

Video of the winder in action. http://youtu.be/iS2732Mlz7k

To build the winder you will need a few non-printable parts.

Qty 4 - 624ZZ Ball Bearings Qty 2 - 606ZZ Ball Bearings Qty 2 - 608ZZ Ball Bearings Qty 1 - Compression Spring, McMaster-Carr P/N 9435K93 Qty 1 - O-Ring Size -237, McMaster-Carr P/N: 9396K226 Qty 1 - O-Ring Size -254, McMaster-Carr P/N: 9396K245 Qty 1 - 1/4" PTFE Tubing, McMaster-Carr P/N: 5239K12 Qty 3 - M3 x 30mm SHCS Qty 3 - M3 Hex Nut Qty 1 - M4 x 40mm SHCS Qty 1 - M4 x 30mm BHCS Qty 2 - M4 x 16mm SHCS Qty 3 - M4 Flat Washer Qty 2 - M4 NyLoc Hex Nut Qty 2 - M5 x 25mm SHCS Qty 2 - M5 Hex Nut Qty 1 - M6 x 40mm SHCS Qty 1 - M6 Flat Washer Qty 2 - M6 Hex Nut Qty 1 - M8 Hex Nut Qty 1 - M8 Threaded Rod (65mm Long) Qty 2 - M10 Hex Nut Qty 2 - M5 Acorn Nut Qty 2 - M5 x 35mm FHCS Qty 4 - 1/2" Tall Rubber Bumpers

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Hello Beisei,

You need to use a M8 tap to cut threads most of the way through the drive cone, you will then be able to thread the rod through the cone, the last partially unthreaded portion of cone will lock it in place.
Ok, so, maybe I'm crazy, but I can't figure out how to get the drive cone attached to the threaded rod... I've destroyed three of them trying all sorts of things. Any hints?
Hello, thank you for your help. Any update on the video? I am thinking of designing a base and printing it. I'll share it with you if I end up doing that. Thanks again! I am looking forward to finally using the winder, it will save me lots of time-compared spooling yarn by hand.

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Instructions

See Exploded Views.

NOTE: You will only need aprox 10mm of the spring.

  • I reccomend slipping the spring over a scrap piece of 8mm threaded rod and using a rotary tool to cleanly cut the section of spring you need.

  • Alternativly you can use a pair of side cutters and jam them in between the coils, I do not reccomend this method since you usually just end up chasing pieces of spring all around the shop and bending up the spring in the process.
Ok, so, maybe I'm crazy, but I can't figure out how to get the drive cone attached to the threaded rod... I've destroyed three of them trying all sorts of things. Any hints?
Hello Beisei,

You need to use a M8 tap to cut threads most of the way through the drive cone, you will then be able to thread the rod through the cone, the last partially unthreaded portion of cone will lock it in place.
This question reveals my noob status, but where can one buy single ball bearings of the type needed? Adding up the lots of 10 at thebigbearingstore and McMaster Carr means this machine would cost about $80 to make--just because of the minimum orders. My local hardware stores don't have these bearings.
Hello, I purchased the bearings from the Big Bearing store at a total of 9.06
Thanks for the tip Julzrolk, I will check them out. For my builds I purchased my bearings from VXB Bearings. Don't remember the cost off the top of my head.
Hello, I have printed all the plastic pieces and have begun to assemble, but I am having difficulty!!! Any chance someone could post an instructional video on how to assemble? Thank you! Also, MatthewLaBerge-Great design!
Hello Julzrolk,Just wanted to let you know I'm putting together a winder shortly and will put together a video while assembling it. One thing to note, it the design I printed is a yet to be released MKII version of the winder with some notable changes, like smaller drive pulley, new carriage, and removable yarn spool as well as a "Yarn Buddy" aka lazy susanne for knitting direclty off the yarn spools. Look for a new design to be posted soon with better instructions.
Okay, great! I have not created a base yet, but have most of the parts ready to go. Any recommendations for what type of base I should use? I have some plexi glass laying around, but I also have some scrap wood. Thanks!!
I would recommend using whatever is heavier and stiffer, I like to use very dense plastics or hardwoods. I would use aluminum but it is cost prohibitive, steel would be ideal but I don't like working or finishing it.
Hello, thank you for your help. Any update on the video? I am thinking of designing a base and printing it. I'll share it with you if I end up doing that. Thanks again! I am looking forward to finally using the winder, it will save me lots of time-compared spooling yarn by hand.
Hello Julz,

This might take me some time, I don't currently have access to a winder. Is there a specific question I may be able o answer to help you song faster?
Hello, I'd like to make this wool-winder but there is one thing in the assembly I don't understand : there is a ball bearing enabling rotation between the spindle base and the carriage and then there is the drive cone supported by the spring which disable this rotation. So I don't understand what's the bearing purpose ? Can I just fix the spindle base on the carriage ?
Thank you.
Hello ounim,

You will need all of the bearings, I will attempt to explain the operation of the mechanism.

Consider the drive cone as stationary in relation to the base, it does not rotate as it is fixed to the main axle. The driven pulley is fixed around the main axle using two ball bearings allowing it to rotate about the axle. The carriage is fixed to the driven pulley with two screws causing it to rotate about the main axle with the driven pulley. The spindle base is fixed to the carriage using two smaller bearings allowing it to rotate independently of the carriage. The spindle base has an o-ring tire fixed in a groove, this o-ring tire makes contact with the drive cone causing the spindle base to rotate with the carriage. The spring between the drive cone and driven pulley is for increasing the friction between the spindle tire and drive cone, the carriage and spindle mechanism is not heavy enough on its own to ensure constant motion. The carriage rotates aprox 10-1/4 times for every rotation of the spindle base.

I hope this explanation makes sense and clears things up, if not let me know and I can post a video detailing the operation.
Is there any chance the spring is too long? I got the exact one listed in the parts list, but I cannot get the drive cone to sit low enough to engage the spindle base. It's compressed as far as it can be.
Hello Megbackus,

I apologize if the instructions were unclear, I have added a note in the instructions section.. You only need a small portion of the spring to load up the cartridge. I have been cutting about 10mm of the spring off, just slip the spring over a scrap dowel or m8 threaded rod and use a dremel to cut the spring to length. The bonus is one spring can be used to make several winders. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Just posted my MadeOne photo.

I made it as an Xmas present for my daughter who has developed a strong interest in knitting.

This was a true joy to print, and a good challenge to build.  The parts were all so different from each other and great fun to watch as they printed.  I started and finished the printing over the course of a weekend on my Makergear Prusa Mendel.

Thanks for including the M-C P/Ns.  It was a huge help.

I would suggest a few mods for the BOM:  

I substituted 5/16 for the M8 rods and nuts with no ill effects.  I also saw in your final photo that you counterbalanced the spindle with Qnty(4) M10 Nuts rather than Qnty(2).  I also added some washers beneath the drive pulley to reinforce the hole in my MDF board.

I'm still not sure about some of the blow-up photos in terms of which parts go where (e.g. I think the spring is under the drive cone), because the resolution is a little fuzzy.  I ended up leaving the spring out since it was hard to install with the cone at the same time.  Also, I have not found the PTFE tubing to be necessary.

Above all, THANK YOU for sharing this online.

IMHO, it is exactly the kind of thing that 3D printing at home was designed to produce.

Of course, now I have to figure out how to tweak the really great yarn swift that was posted here.  Would that I also had a laser cutter...

Thanks!

P.S.  What program uses the Master Files?  I mostly design in Openscad, and I've never seen files like these.
I use Pro/Engineer to design all of my stuff.
Hey George,

Thanks for the feedback, it's always great to hear what others think of the stuff I design. Most of your assumptions about where parts go we're correct, including the spring. The spring is there to maintain pressure between the carriage and the drive cone. If you are winding thick yarn the spring is not really necessary but if you wind very thin sock yarn like my mom does you will need the spring to provide enough pressure to keep the spindle from slipping. The same thing goes for the PTFE tube, it is not necessary for thick yarn, but if you wind sock yarn you will cut a nice slot through the guide ini no time
This is real neat.

I am currently working on this, not directly related, but perhaps from interest :-)
Done :-)

thingiverse.com/thing:18286
DailyEarring#109: Woolwinder (with gears, video inside)
by Schorhr
I will definitely try and print this out, though I may need to build a new nozzle to do it. Great work!
Thanks! Cool, let me know how it works out... Worst case would be to scale it up...

Though this one could be printed without much support (other then some of my other models which depend on the UP's fine support structure).

I would love to have some comparison of the small things with another printer.

If you have any idea how to improve upon the tiny gear to make it work better and keep the scale (and the tollerances) please let me know, I am inexperienced with gears (at least with the 90° transition). I think I mi
ght work on a continous string/belt design for the tiny thing, it might work better.
I am currently printing the parts to this and I cannot see where the drive cone or the drive cone tap guide are used? The blow-ups to not show them. Are they needed? :-[
Hello John,

The drive cone is on one of the exploded views but I admit it's not very clear where it goes, I have attached a picture with an arrow pointing directly towards the drive cone.

As for the drive cone tap guide, it is mearly a fixture to help you align the tap while threading the drive cone. I didn
't use it myself, and it's not a necessary so you can omit it if you like.
thanks! I am well on the way. Hit one more snag though. The Wool Spindlet is only 1 layer thick. with a .35mm print head, its very thin and in PLA its very flexible. Did you do anything in Skeinforge to make this part more solid? :-[
Hello John,

I also used a .35mm nozzle, I was able to get two thicknesses by using a .30 layer height and adjusting my Perimeter Width Over Thickness until I had two thicknesses. If that doesn't wok for you I can upload a new spindle that has a thicker section.
I did manage to get two layers now. I used fill with one extra shell and a ratio of 1.3 but the cone is still not quite stiff enough. My wife is an avid knitter and this is going to get some serious use. Can I take you up on the offer to thicken the design on the wool Spindle? This design rocks! everything is fitting really well. Thanks for posting it!
Hello John,

I uploaded an alternate version of the spindle that is twice as thick as the previous spindle. I'm glad to hear you like the design, make sure to take some pictures of the completed winder.
Its all in one piece. Picture soon to follow but I wanted to be sure the spring goes in the driven pulley between the two bearings? Also, what was the PTFE tubing for?
Hello John,

The spring actually goes inbetween the driven pulley and the drive cone, it helps force the spindle assembly into the drive cone. The PTFE tube goes into the hole at the top of the yarn guide, it gives the yarn a snag free path.
Neat! I may make one in wood.
Great design, love the simplicity and the reflective base! :)

Video looks like it could be an out-take from one of the Eames' shorts:

youtube.com/watch?v=cwoSbbngfO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYgt8Ni9vQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY_viPkxH1I

Someone needs to make a printable Solar Toy - the original do-nothing machine!
Thank You for the kind words, I am certainly no cinematographer. I remember those films when I was a kid, especially tops!
My mother had a commercial version when i was a child and the thing is strangely amusing to work with. I was reminded about it when I saw jvdh's yarn swift ( thingiverse.com/thing:13776 ) and mused if making one would work and if I could remember how it functioned.

Fortunately I don't have to now. You've gone and made it work.
Yarn swift
by jvdh
This would go great with these things:

thingiverse.com/thing:11374

thingiverse.com/thing:13316
Rigid Heddle Loom
Parametric round knitting loom
Video has been uploaded, a link is now in the description
Beautiful. I am tempted to print one for its beauty. Maybe wind wire on it or something.
This is a _really_ excellent design!
Video is being uploaded to YouTube now, I have slow internet so it's taking a while.
Agreed I would love to see this in action. I love old timey things being brought into the future. :)
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