THE Printrbot

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Published on February 4, 2012

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This is the real deal, no derivatives here. These are the real Printrbot in it's current version. I have a bunch of these printing all day, every day.... it works. It is expandable to larger widths and heights easier than any other reprap out there. Period. Its the most inexpensive bot out there being mass produced. And, its now yours to print, build, improve, change.... whatever you like. I can't wait to see what you do with it. I will post pics of all the various forms it takes, news, etc at printrbot.com
-enjoy
Brook

Instructions

NEW retro-fixes for the base and the x-carriage.
NEW v2 Revisions: Base v2, X-Carriage v2, Xtruder-Mount v2, and X-Motor v2

Build Videos are live: printrbot.com/instructions Updated parts list below.

Other Pictures Here:
flickr.com/photos/printrbot/sets/72157628821699187/


PRINTED PARTS
2 Bases
1 X Motor
1 X Idler
1 X Carriage
1 Xtruder Mount
4 Y BarEnds
2 Belt Clips
1 Y Bearing Guide

OTHER PRINTED PARTS
2 Z Couplers
2 Belt Pulleys (we use XL belt)
1 Extruder/hot end assembly (We use Wades Accessible and Herringbone gears)

DETAILED PARTS LIST For PRINTRBOT Plastic Kit:
printrbot.com/instructions
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any idea on where i could get these printed out ? I really wanna build one. anyone wanna hook a brotha up with some printed parts for the low low ?

I tried to print the E-body.stl part but it contain an hole and also the service of netfabb is not able to repair... anyone has a working version of this part?

Maybe try another slicer. It printed OK for me using Slic3r (a few versions ago).

is there a laser version of this, i can cut a majority of it out on my laser and buy the rest?

I think they actually have the stl for the wood parts on printrbot's website

http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...
printrbot.com don't sell a collection of the non wood bits as far as I know, but individual stuff like motors controller, hotbed etc. You need rods and shafts from elsewhere, and nuts/bolts from hardware store.

Does the big extruder included here work on the extruder for the Printrbot LC? It looks the same, but I want to double check.

I have looked at the instruction site and and can not find a material list for this printer for all non printed parts? It lists the BOMs for the Jr, Plus, and Laser Cut but not the original?

I am also looking for this i found the how to exploded diagram that has a list of parts but it a little dated and seems like you cant order some of those parts from printrbot.com anymore... here is the link to that diagram http://printrbot.com/wp-conten...
im digging around the printrbot forum to see if i can find some old posts with a better list

What is the maxiumum size of the printed parts? i am trying to run a little bit of a kickstarter where i promise to give all the contributors the printer's printed parts (try to say that 10x quickly!) and i want to know if i can print another Printrbot jr from the first...

 The jr is laser cut wood, not printed.

ESmgr1.stl (small extruder gear) is printing mirrored which will not mesh with E-Lg-gear.stl (large extruder gear). Is anyone else having this problem?  

 Worked for me

If you need anything for a Printrbot, or would like a bigger Printrbot version, I sell them. My website does not have much listed on it, but you can check out my new Printrbot extended on eBay, or email me for info at info@japica.com. My new versions takes care of all the current issues with the Printrbot design, and I have been printing at 250 mm/s on the new extended version for the past week with no issues and high quality. 
website is www.japica.com

 Do you publish your updated version ? where to download ?

So, what would I need to buy, in addition to these, to upgrade my printrbot jr to a printrbot?

For anyone who's been trying to build a Printrbot Original - I put together a build platform template for this Printrbot (6" x 6" build area) - check it out here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

Sorry, not really an answer to your question, but I highly recommend ditching the herringbone gears and using normal straight-tooth gears:

http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

There's no justification for using herringbone gears in this application (apart from looking kind of cool but I doubt that should be a priority :) ).

Do you plan to sell a vitamins kit of non-printable parts? I would love to make a printrbot and I have access to a 3d printer but I'm not eager to search for all of the parts. I'm sure many other people would be interested in it as well because it would make it easier for people to replicate their machines.

I asked via email:

"At this time we are not planning on selling a vitamin kit, but it has been discussed as a future possibility."

So there is an opertunuty for an entrepreneur out there!
(10% off for me for the idea?)

I'm doing the "search for all of the parts" atm...
I"ll probably add sources on printrbottalk.com

Where is the change log between V1, V2 and V3 ?!

One cant just upload, without telling the differences :-/

No, just go for the newest. Discuss at printrbottalk.com if you have difficulties.

Hey, does anyone know the source file and parameters for the extruder's herringbone gears?

They are here, ESmgr1.stl
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I can't remember what I used, but basic-a-bit-beefy comes to mind. Slower is better.

Does anyone have the new pb-X-motor stl with the two new endstop attachments as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
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I called up Brook and got him to post the file. Looks like the it's uploaded as x-motor-v3.stl.

I just emailed prontrbot.com about it.

Has anyone managed to put one of the plastic kits together yet, and get it working? I've got it fully assembled mechanically, but not sure where 2 of the endstops / the thermocouple should be mounted, since that step's missing on youtube.

I had exactly this problem - I made up my own mount for z out of a SD card case and used the washer and zipties and bolts from the kit to mount it. This guesswork added some time to mybuild.

Yep.

You should try http://www.printrbottalk.com for community support. It's easier than here.
Thermocouple for hot bed is taped to bottom of hotbed toward the front of the cutout in the wooden bed. Picture on printrbottalk
Have a look on the printrbottalk re end stops and if needed post with a picture
re which ones and someone (or me) will help. It depends on what version of the parts you got.

is it just me, or is Base-w-endstop-mnt.stl bigger then the version of the base sent out with the kickstarter.

I then thought the kickstarter one might be pb-Base.stl or V2, but neither of these seem to have the endstop mount. The kickstarter one i got does though.

Any ideas?

Are you saying bigger by looks of the image here? If so I agree, but clicking on the little blue box, and assuming the grid lines are on the 3D viewer are cm then they look very close. I assume the viewpoint of the image above is closer so it looks bigger in comparison.

But won't know until you load it or print it. I'll be doing that eventually, when I unbreak by hot-end.

THANKS, I love that I can print off spare parts for my printrbot. Came out perfect! Thanks.

How about the STL for pb-X-Carriage-w-Z-endstop.skp?

(if I get desperate I'll install Sketchup, but not in a hurry yet) :)

pb-X-Carriage-w-Z-endstop.STL and the others are available as ZIPs at http://www.printrbottalk.com/f...
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Brook, its a PITA to download all these things, any chance of putting version collections in zip files?

ie your original collection of parts into pb-V1.zip, ALL the unchanged parts plus the new ones (or just to new ones?) into pb-V2.zip etc.

Either here or at Printrbot.com.

It would be a godsend.

Now that I've got most bugs ironed out I'm going to start replicating soon :)

Yes please! Moving the V2's out would be great, I just printed off a large V1 part on accident. So much wasted plastic!

ps Thanks for the other parts, extruder etc.

Hi I am trying to finish my Kickstarter printrbot and I am finding that some printed parts are smaller than they should be. Right now, I am trying to fix the large toothed wheel that has a hex shaped hole for the head of the machine screw. Well the hole is significantly smaller than the head of the screw. Should I try to carve out the material of the hole or print a new part? (I got a Cupcake) If print, is the part available? thanks, Jose Rodriguez

Just after writing this comment, I saw the suggestion below to use http://www.thingiverse.com/thi... but I still have the question: why do some parts seem to be smaller than they should?

i would go back to the V1 for the x motor mount, with the version here it is very difficult to mount all four screws to hold the motor on there simply isn't enough room

I am watching the build videos. GREAT! I've got early parts printed. Where are the small additions to glue/screw attach to make version one version 2? *DONT_KNOW*

Is the bill of material missing some screws? I don't see anything that would be used to attach the extruder motor to the extruder. It should be an M3, but 8mm is too short and 16mm is too long. I noticed it because I got my "reprapper kit" from kickstarter and am putting it together. There is nothing included that works to attach that stepper motor.

Paul -

I got my kit as well, but haven't got the extruder printed yet. Which one did you use? Might you be able to link me? I'll check to see if I'm missing parts as soon as I have he extruder and gears printed.

Another version of the y-bearing holder would be helpful for people who are using manufactured pulleys. The pulleys which will fit need to be smaller than .9" and pulleys with those specs can be relatively expensive.

What size would they need to be for your pulleys? Can you provide a link to the pulleys you would use?

Do you sell the heated build platform?

Hello,

I invested in the basic kit and now wish to complete the project. Do you offer partial kits to finish out the basic kit?

Thanks
Ralph Brooks

Hi Ralph,

You should be able to find what you need at the printrbot store, but if not, send us an email at info@printrbot.com and we'll get it figured out.

Thanks!
-Printrbot Team

Brook,

I've been wondering how you guys are tightening the bottom two bolts on the x-motor. It's a hard bolt to access. Do you guys use a special tool?

I see what you mean now. I got them most of the way down by hand and then kinda forced an allen wrench in there for the last bit of tightening.

What kind of screws are you using? An allen wrench should fit in there if you use socket head cap screws.

The printrbot store is now open! http://printrbot.com

A heads up for Thingiversers, we're giving away an exclusive printrbot shirt on our twitter. Check it out at twitter.com/printrbot

So I can print printrbots with printrbots and resell them and make millions?! 8-) HAHAAA

Has anyone got the printrbot in SolidWorks format? or step? Thanks.

any chance that you will be posting the files for the laser cut or printrbot+?

although not technically reprap, i still love the design and want to try it out with clear or coloured acrylic.

On the kickstarter comments Brook said he is going to release the laser cut files when he starts shipping those units. There are still minor modifications being made to them as he gets all the production parts in.

It would be nice if the bearing guide 1/4" to 1/2" taller. Currently the belt has to go at an upward angle to attach to the clamps. This might cause the belt to rub against the top of the bearing guide.

Here's a picture of how it lines up with the bearing guide is 1/4" taller.

Okay, now I'm getting impatient, can't wait to get my hands on plastic parts now!

If only the LC plans were available, then I could at least do something!

Nice job Brook

Regards,
Lerche

Hi I was wondering if you will be selling the printrbot kit with out printed parts like you did on kickstarter. Also will there be education discounts?

Hi, you can sign up for our waiting list for news about when the store will open, discounts, and more at http://eepurl.com/inyPw

Concerning rod lengths and the laser cut print bed: Since we are waiting for delivery of the 6x6 heated beds, we are forced to use the 8x8s on the bot farm. It is a really tight squeeze and we can't print on the full area - only about 6x7. The 6x6 will allow us to make the laser cut wood print bed much more narrow and even move the sides in to more closely resemble the original pictures of the Printrbot. I will post our laser cut print bed versions for both the 6x6 and the 8x8 configurations, including all the rod lengths that should accompany them. Essentially, this will amount to the original Printrbot and a plastic version of the Printrbot+Plus

peace,

Brook

Hi Brook, congratulations on the success!

I'm printing one of the plates out, and notice that the shoulder in the nut trap on the x-motor and x-idler brackets that the nut sits on is painfully thin. The x-axis is supported by these, and I measure the shoulder at a mere 0.8mm on the x-idler - just two layers at 0.4mm layer height. It's a l
ittle thicker on x-motor, but still only 1.3mm thick. It is the same on the new v2 files. Please consider making the shoulder a bit deeper; I wouldn't want to push down on the x-axis too hard for fear of breaking this.

Also, there was a mention in this blog back in November http://blog.reprap.org/2
011/11/around-reprap-community-11062011.html that Neil Underwood was converting your Sketchup files to Openscad. Has work progressed on this? If not, I would be interested in helping out with the conversion.

I printed out a Printrbot, put it together and have started printing another!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Does this mean I win the competition for laser cut parts you talk about in the latest video?!

Hey Brook, could you upload the dxf files for your lasercut version of the printer?

Thanks!

"OVER 8000 TOTAL DOWNLOADS!!" I see only 500-850 on the left side.

Add them all up and it is over 8000. He didn't say "8000 sets" downloaded, just 8000 total downloads.

Another (hopefully final) correction:

Smooth rods should be:
2 - 10 1/4" or 260mm (z bars)
4 - 13 3/16" or 335mm (y bars for 214mm sq heated bed and x bars for 305mm base)

Thanks so much for the picture and information! Can you please confirm which size Heated bed this would accomodate? It looks like you put in the 214mm Prusa plate (~8in).

Can anyone help make a rod cut list for different size printrbots? I would like to make one to support the standard size 8" heated bed.

I think it would also be nice to have a cut list for the 6" heated bed.

smooth rod:

4 - 335mm (y and x axis, for 214mm sq printed bed)

2 - 250mm (z axis)

threaded rod:
2 - 200mm (z axis)
4 - 305mm (base)

I think I can help ;). The store will be online soon. After seeing the parts for sale for $90 elsewhere, I will be celebrating our store opening with $49 all-plastic kits. I will give it a shot for 30 days at least. I am working to get the price even lower - the dream is $25 for a set of plastic parts. Someday!

-brook

I found it very difficult to insert the screws that fix the x-axis motor. Only hex-headed screws seemed to fit after some Dremel work on the plastic part.

Is there any trick I am missing?

Thanks.

I'm Checking everyday for your store opening, news and pic.

I would really love to have one.

Continue your good work

Nuke
From Quebec, Canada

Shut up and take my money already!

Ok new here and would really love a 3d printer. SO can anyone build one of these things and if so how do i get past the chicken and egg position of needing to print some parts to make a printer.

Amazing design really looking forward to building one if thats ok. :-D

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Forgot to log in, now you can sent me a message

Maybe I can help, please send me a message

Check out a more complete parts list from the Printrbot forum: http://www.printrbottalk.com/f...
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Hi, I'm completely new to 3D printing, but I'm going to try and tackle the printrbot. I'd like to have a large build table though. What parts need to change to get the 12x12?

Will the pieces that make up the extruder head by uploaded as well, or are they are standard part? If so where...?

Hello everybody,

I want to ask if you have any suggestions where can I buy the smooth rods? Preferably somwhere in Czech Republic or nearby.

More importantly, how many mm of rod is needed? How long are each of the rods supposed to be? I can't find the answer anywhere

Great job, just finished printing all parts. Could you please provide file for laser cut print bad.

Thank you and best regards...

Thanks for the list. A couple more things are needed to be able to print all the files. What kind of belt is it? XL, MXL, T5, T2.5, other? And belt width? Someone mentioned Greg's accessible extruder parts, but what hot end mount does it need?

We used T5 belt, 6mm width and corresponding pulleys. Works OK. Plan to upgrade to GT2 belt and commercial pulleys for less lash/better accuracy.

Thank you abdrumm from Spain! :)

Hi Brook,

will you release the design of the electronics as well?

I'd like to build the printrbot including the electronics myself. :)

(The only thing I don't think enough self confident to build is the extruder so far. But maybe even that can be possible if some part can be bought.)

I just uploaded my assembly - Red really stands out. It is not complete with hot end yet. And its missing some fasteners... but its a good start. I even cleared up a few lines and put the correct size bars on there.

Enjoy,

Brook

Awesome! This looks great, can't wait to build some bolts.

It uses LM8UU's for all of the axis. The z-bearings are friction fit.

I'm curious what is holding the Z axis LM8UU bushings in place, maybe it's just a tight fit?

It would be kinda cool to see the x rods cut into the LM8UU holes and lock the bushings into place. They would need to be a few mm further apart for that

I assume zip ties are used to hold the bearings.

:-D I am wondering if or when the laser cut files will be shared?

Hi Brooks! I am a backer too. Thank you very much for sharing. I am eager to receive my printrbot!!

I am missing the motor pulleys among the parts you've uploaded. Are the same than the prusa?

Thank you for sharing.

I prefer the version from whosawhatsis (RepRap Wallace) because it's parametric and designed with the OpenSource software OpenSCAD.

I already printed and built my version of Wallace and were important for the possibility to choose different rod sizes and motors on the parametric files...

* http:
//reprap.org/wiki/Wallace

Made an assembly of the parts posted here. The pb-X-Motor.skp is actually an stl file, but the rest was made from the sketchup files. Doesn't look like I can attach the sketchup file it self but here's a picture.

Sorry about the X-motor file... I just loaded the right one.

peace,
Brook

Thanks! :-)

Upload it as "I made a derivative" ... I would love to print a small dummy for my desk.

I printed the files today, not usable, but neat to be able to see and touch the parts.
;-)

can i get the firmware working with printrboard? i made PCB and board but sprinter and marlin from github didn't work.

Hey Brook!

I downloaded only the skp files and imported them into sketchup 8. All were fine except pb-x-Motor.skp. It gave an error message. I loaded it into a text editor and found it's not a skp file it's an STL! Imports fine as an stl but oops I wanted all the skp files! I scaled it by 1/25.4 and it seems to be right but only you know for sure.

This is gerat, Brook. Can't wait for the laser cut + files... I've got my laser all primed and ready for them. :-)

As a backer I am proud to see them released to the wild. Nice one Brook.

The upload speeds from Mexico must be good :)
BMS

Congratulations Brook, you have my Ideal Job :)

Best wishes for all the 3D printer craziness.

Note that it's very important to get precision ground, hardened rods that fix the bearings with zero slop. Otherwise, you'll end up with a lot of wobble and a bad experience overall.

This should be all the printed parts necessary?:

2 - pb-Base.stl

1 - pb-Y-BarEnd-x4.stl

1 - pb-Y-Bearing-Gu...stl

1- pb-BeltClip-x2.stl

1 - pb-X-Idler.stl

1 - pb-X-Motor.stl

1 - pb-X-Carriage.stl

1 - pb-Xtruder-Mount.stl

+ Greg's accessible extruder parts

+ Nophead's coupling

The things which are on the end of the smooth rods are the Y-BarEnd right? The designs look different than what's in this picture: https://secure.flickr.com/phot...

+ 2x pulleys

Very NICE.

I have been looking forward to seeing this. Congratulations on the highly successful kickstarter!

Sure thing. Thanks. Hope you enjoy... now to round up all my instructions and make all that presentable.

Take care,

Brook