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Mendel90

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Published on February 19, 2012

Description

RepRap Mendel variant using two sheets at right angles for the frame.

Instructions

See hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2011/12/mendel90.html

This is the 8mm rod version with NEMA17 motors, T5 belts
and an acrylic frame.

The source files and STLs for other sizes are on Github here: github.com/nophead/Mendel90. There are also bills of materials for each sub assembly, so you can see which parts go where.

Detailed instructions will be on the RepRap wiki soon.

I have built this version, but not run it yet. The "Sturdy" version has been running for three Months.

The base sheet is designed to be 10mm acrylic and the rest of the frame 6mm.

Print:

10 fixing-block.stl
2 z-screw_pointer.stl
4 z-coupling.stl
2 pulley.stl

and one of all the other STL files.

Vitamins.txt lists all the other mechanical parts.
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BTW you can use motocycle lamp 6v 50W as PSU 5v load. It will be light source too.

I only use a top limit switch. The bottom one can be turned on by changing the config file.

I see z-limit-switch disappeared from latest git ?

What is the difference between the versions? Especially sturdy and mendel. (Looking at the ones on github)

Mendel90 is acrylic with 8mm rods, so pretty much equivalent to a Mendel. The sturdy version uses 12mm MDF and 10mm rods and has a slightly bigger build area.

fan mount for mendel90 http://www.thingiverse.com/thi... thanks for richgain

Hi nophead, could you recommend anywhere we can buy the electronics required to build this? (UK)

Think3dPrint3d sell Sanguinololus: http://www.emakershop.com/brow...

but it will work with any reprap electronics.

have anyone add fan mount to the x-carriage? )

I tried, but I failed :-[

Here's my attempt https://lh3.googleusercontent....

(the side of fan duct closer to carriage is actually vertical, picture is shot from weird angle).

The problem with this design is that airflow is too low/exit is too far from nozzle. I get better results with 120mm fan blowing across the whole heated bed. Attached to carriage is 60mm fan.

I'm now building one from my previous Prusa Mendel's parts. I got fed up with bed leveling issues and difficulties getting axes perpendicular. I also had a verusion with PLA bushings and was unable to tension X axis belt properly- because when tensioned enough, PLA bushings popped out of Z bars.

I do have a couple of comments regarding Mendel90:
* I do not find X axis belt tensioner (plastic half-circle) strong enough to tension belt- it split open for me. I replaced it with nyloc nut and it seems to work better.
* I have dual shaft steppers, and the second shaft is in the way of ribbon c
able for X axis. The only option for dual shaft motors is to mount X axis ribbon cable perpendicular to gantry frame, to the side of motor. I will probably try to do it once I get the printer working. Back to wiring :)

Odd the tensioner split, I have no problems with 3 I printed in ABS and PLA should be harder if anything. Did it de-laminate? If so perhaps the hole was a bit tight. It could also be printed lying down which would make it stronger.

I started with just a nyloc but the belt stopped it turning so the screw went through it and cut into the belt.

Yes I can see duel shaft could be a problem. Maybe the gantry should move back a bit.

Thanks again, here's a movie of it working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Going to go for the ribbon cable next, phone wire works, but it looks really ghetto :(

Looks great. Parts are printing now. I post results when I run into problems or it is finished :)

i will like to get my hands on a set of acrillyc cut parts... can eny one help me? were i can go to get them? thank you :))

Finished building and first testing of a Mendel90. It is a great design Nophead!

I had just one problem: the x-bar clamps don't clamp the rods tight enough, so if i tighten the x-belt the rods move. Maybe you can increase the gap a little so it is possible to secure the rods a little more. I know that my printer was printing a littlebit to little plastic and therefore the hole
s are a bit large. But i think it would be an easy improvement.

Personally i really prefer a vertical x-axis and i am working on one compatible with this printer.

Thanks for your great work!

Not that it would be practical, but if you printed the two support sheets (like a series of puzzle pieces), this printer would be over 80% printable ;)

22/3/12 Improved Wades extruder:

Front moved back to allow for deeper hobbed bolts.

Added upper support web and reduced the lower one to one layer.

Added composite STL.

I've started gathering parts to begin building the Mendel90. I got the python scripts to run OK using your instructions, and have been able to view the plans in OpenSCAD.

One thing that puzzled me was the polypropylene strips. I can't see them in the model or find any reference to them in the blog.

Where do they go and what are they for?

Thanks.

Those are the purple strips that you can see in the model. They are mentioned here: http://hydraraptor.blogspot.co... under the Cables heading.

Woo! Printing this now! Thanks for posting the design. I am going to laser cut the sheets at school. I will let you know how the build goes/contribute where I can. Thanks again.

it seems for me that z-coupling and x-idler-bracket models mave problems with though holes. It`s a bug or a feature?

They have a support layer because they have a smaller hole on top of bigger one. That would mean printing the smaller one in mid air.

They are one layer thick and easily removed with a drill or a penknife.

Thank you for this great design, i would love to build one, but i have one question (if its been asked already, i'm sorry)

Is there a way to easily convert a prusa into a mendel90. without having to replace a lot of parts?

It seems like the X-carriage and vertical parts could be the same exact parts..

Also: Will this appear on reprap.org once you feel the design is "finished" ?

One more: Could you compress these into a few "plates" like the prusa design?

Sorry, none of the printed parts are compatible with the Prusa. I swapped the smooth rods and lead screws at the X-ends, the spacing is different and so is the x-bar spacing.

I will put the instructions on reprap.org. Whether it appears on the front page is up to Dr Bowyer.

It is easy to combine parts onto build plates with openscad. The problem is Skienforge only has one infill direction per layer, so bridging does not work properly. When one parts needs a bridge lay
er they all get it. If two parts need a bridge in opposite directions on the same layer one is not right.

I also print some pulleys at a different layer height and some parts with 100% infill.

I'm working on building one...it's really hard without documentation. I got a few questions.

Should the templates work for MDF? The numbers are for the sizes of holes in mm, right? What are the 2 8mm holes on the base?
Are the microswitches in the BoM the endstops? Why only 3? In this picture, I can see 4, 2 on the Z axis, 1 on X and 1 on Y. Shouldn't you use 2 on each axis?
Where do the
ball bearings go? I can only think of 3 places, the extruder pinch wheel, X idler, and Y idler. They are also known as 624 and 608 bearings, you should put that into the BoM.
Why so many kinds of screws? Can you try to consolidate them?
What would the screws be in SAE?

I will do the documentation as fast as I can but it takes time and I have other things to do. Some of these questions are answered on my blog.

The two 8mm holes are in case the motor has two shafts.

The templates will work for MDF but I use 12mm so the gantry would end up 6mm further back. I also use No6 wood screws which have smaller pilot holes . Best to wait for me to publish the source as that can generate any permutation.

The ext
ruder uses 3 608 bearings, one 624 on the X idler and 2 on the Y. The BOM is generated automatically from the ball bearing dimensions. I will have to add another field to get the type in there.

Yes the microswitches are the endstops. You only need one on Z. I use the top and everybody else uses the
bottom. I am going to redesign the bottom limit to be simpler and will probably change that to a full size microswitch because lower force ones are available. A high force one may lift the x end.

The screws have to be the right length in most cases. For example they can stick through the base and
would look ugly sticking through the frame. There is one that is far too long on the y-idler to avoid yet another type.

I don't know anything about SAE screws and find them impossible to Google, unlike metric where I can just do "M4 nut size".

With the source files you could put in the size of SAE
you want to use and everything would change, the plastic parts and the sheet pilot holes, etc.

The latest Prusa just uses friction fit for the bars. I haven't had a problem with one screw one prototype.

Yes the y-idler was missing, thanks for spotting it, I have added it.

why didn't you use greg's hinged instead of wade's?

I don't think Greg's idler bracket is strong enough when printed with ABS, Greg only uses PLA.

I don't need to raise the motor because the bolts have captive heads, so I have no need to get under it, and I prefer to keep the centre of gravity low.

I have no reason to open the idler and prefer to keep it in place once the spring tension has been set. It doesn't close fully like the original
Wade's so it is easy to load filament, just push it in and turn the wheel.

If I need to clean the hobbed bolt I take the nut off with my fingers and remove the bolt and big gear.

The mounting holes are still on 50mm centres, so you should be able to fit Greg's if you want.

More details here: htt
p://hydraraptor.blogspot.com/2...

What is your estimated cost of the unprinted parts?

The cost depends a lot on where and how you buy the parts but is should be about the same as an LM8UU Prusa. Same motors, electronics, and bearings. The rods and belts are slightly shorter in total I think. The frame is cheap if you use MDF and probably similar to the Prusa studding. The fasteners are more numerous but smaller ones, and don't cost much anyway.

nophead, from dxf file frame base is almost 1.2mx1.1m in dimensions. Is it really that big?

No the sizes are as stated in vitamins.txt. I have just loaded the base into Rhino and that is correct at 468 wide It looks like whatever you are viewing it with is taking the units as inches instead of mm. Are DXFs dimensionless like STLs? I have never used them before.

Check again. I measure it at much closer to 450mm... using Qcad to measure.

This looks fantastic - I'm excited to build one, with a few slight modifications. When will the .scad files be available?

Two questions -

1) The bolts in the base dont' appear to have nuts on the bottom side, are they supposed to be threaded in the MDF/acrylic?

2) I can't see in the smooth rod holders how they are adjustable to make sure the rods are parallel. I know you have mentioned this feature - is it just mi
ssing from these renderings, or am I missing it?

The scad files will be up when I have finished the build scripts and sussed out git. Hopefully this weekend, but I have to make two new hot ends first.

1) Yes they are M4 tapped for acrylic and No6 wood screws in a pilot hole for MDF. You can also tap MDF M4 and it works very well.

2) If you look at the bar-clamps.stl you will see the screw holes in the base are actually slots with 2mm of movement side to side.

Are these printed parts the same as for the MDF version?

More or less. The hole sizes might be slightly different as the screws go from M4 to No 6 wood screws. However you can actually tap MDF M4. The sheet drawings will change as the sheets are thicker, which moves the gantry back a few mm, and the pilot holes get smaller. Also the BOM changes of course.

Note that the MDF version shown on my blog is slightly bigger and uses 10mm rods and bearings.

If you wait a couple of days I will publish the source with scripts to make all the STL and DXF files and the BOM. You specify the build volume, sheet materials, motors and rods, etc, and it makes custo
mised versions of all the parts.

Added a bill of materials.

I added the sheet drawings in DXF and PDF.

Hi Nop head, it's like my happy day to see this! Will you also be providing one for

M6 rods/NEMA14s as originally forecast as NEMA14s are a lot cheaper than NEMA17s.

I know, some people are never happy! Sorry about that.

Are you also going to provide the dimensions for the acrylic/MDF? are they different for the M6 version vs the M8 version. I was going to get some M6 threaded rods from Screwfix this week as well!

Where can you get NEMA14's cheaper than NEMA17, I have always found them more expensive?

With the source files you can chose any combination you want but all the sheets and plastic parts will change. As one of the predefined configurations I have a Huxley sized machine with M6 rods and NEMA14. It needs a small extruder designing as it looks a bit silly with a full sized Wade's and the
re is no justification for using the smaller motor on X unless the extruder is lighter.

I am currently working on scripts to build all the files automatically as it takes a long time to export everything by hand.

I will add the files for the acrylic M8 version to this thing.

Where's the .scad files?

As stated I will publish them soon. Probably as a link to github.

I wonder why there are no printable 3D printers in the Thingiverse Features Things O:-)

The other difference with Printrbot is the vertical carriage / x-axis. That gives smaller printed parts but I prefer to have the carriage horizontal with a low centre of gravity.

The unique thing about a Printrbot is that it is a Mendel style machine with no frame and the Z and Y axes are unsupported.

If you add a frame you would end up with a machine like this. You don't need the chunky Z motor brackets and the studding connecting them. You wouldn't use the Y-axis where the rods move and the bearings are stationary because that makes the Y carriage (and hence the depth of the machine) bigger a
nd heavier.

I did a quick search using the tag system and of the 63 things that were tagged "3d printer" the following printers have been previously featured. the maker bot cupcake, the makerbot thing-o-matic, the ultimaker, and the CUBE(printable). did some more poking beyond that and found the reprap wallace(printable), the prusa air2, and the 3D printed full size makerbot(printable).

there is probably more but the prusa and reprap tags are used so liberally(basically any thing that can be printed with a prusa seems to have a prusa or reprap tag) that wading through and finding the original upload is beyond my attention span.

p.s. have you considered making a version of the me
ndel90 that bolts a mendel90 frame to a wallace or printrbot?

Awesome! Definitely looking forward to seeing the other sizes, BOM, etc. Keep up the great work! :D

Awesome! Definitely looking forward to seeing the other sizes, BOM, etc. Keep up the great work! :D

congrats on the release! looks really well thought out like everything else you've given this community :D

Thanks nophead