Black Dragon

by Lodorenos, published

Black Dragon by Lodorenos Nov 3, 2012

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Fearsome and deadly, the lone dragon readies for a fierce battle!

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I decided to post the 123D Make 3DP file. I see many of these types of objects on AutoDesk's website, an a 3DP file doesn't actually contain any copyrighted material. You have to clean it up yourself, sorry about that.

Sorry, but you're wrong. To mirror who RobTFirefly sayd, given that the item is MEANT to be sold and it's a modern product not some ancient vase from the ming dynasty, it means all parties who recreate it are bypassing the availability of its owners rights to distribution and derivatives *Thats why we have to choose to allow people to make derivatives here*.    
Just like how we cant use a custom recording device, capture audio from a song, upload it here, and re-appropriate its rights, we cant scan someones for-sale products and re-appropriate those rights to others. We cant rely on yelling Fair Use for everything we do. We may be Open Source loving makers, but we still have to follow some basic rules. Also I don't see where he says he bought the model, just that he found and took pictures of it at the shop. But 1 person buying an item doesn't negate the others who just rebuild it from a 3d scan.Lodorenos, I am sincerely sorry this debate has shown up on your post. I did not mean for it to gain this kind of attention when I made my first post :/ I hope this does not discourage you from trying to do more with 3d scanning/ photogrammatry and 3d printing.

DisneyXLucas Lawyers... oh god... we're hosed. 

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I added a flat bottom, so just import it, scale it to a proper size (default is quite small) and print with support.

This was created by taking 32 pictures around the model I found in a market. The images were then converted to a messy 3D model with assistance of Autodesk's 123D Catch software which I then cleaned up and repaired with Autodesk MeshMixer and NetFabb.

LEGAL STUFF: I took down the links, sorry. Apparently this could possibly be a violation of copyright. I asked my lawyer today, and he noted that it's legal (in the USA) to create the model and use it for my own or educational uses. So technically I can release it as fair use implying educational use, but I'm not going to risk it.


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Lodorenos on Nov 14, 2012 said:

I decided to post the 123D Make 3DP file. I see many of these types of objects on AutoDesk's website, an a 3DP file doesn't actually contain any copyrighted material. You have to clean it up yourself, sorry about that.

kohlerw on Nov 5, 2012 said:

Why don't we ask for a official ruling. We know
Thingiverse has an attorney as shown be the recent “Terms of Service” Brew-Ha-Ha.
What are the Do’s and Don’t with 3D scanner and Image converters. Then we will know,
any nobody will need to speculate. After all if I print/post Yoda am I now
dealing with Disney’s lawyers?

EpicFail on Nov 6, 2012 said:

DisneyXLucas Lawyers... oh god... we're hosed. 

dutchmogul on Nov 4, 2012 said:

Legal issues aside, its an impressive scan and clean-up job. Well done. Even if it ends up that you can't post it for download, you still get to play with it, for which I am EXTREMELY jealous ;-)

EpicFail on Nov 4, 2012 said:

scan and cleanup job?  the only image currently available is just the photo of the original...

rahotep on Nov 4, 2012 said:

What gives, Thingiverse? You featured an item that's a copyright violation? 

elgambitero on Nov 5, 2012 said:

If I do reverse engineering on the Replicator 2, and post stl of all parts an instructions on thingiverse, I wonder if they would feature it.

It's copyright violation, and it does Replicator 2 advertising! It's perfect!

EpicFail on Nov 4, 2012 said:

Converting commercial art into something seems like a nono. Speaking as a commercial artist, if one of my figures was scanned and handed out for anyone to produce or sell without my say I'd be on the phone with a lawyer.

Lodorenos on Nov 4, 2012 said:

I hadn't thought about the possible legal issues related to this. I've taken down the download links while I search for legal information on the matter.

Since 3D printing in a noncommercial environment is a relatively new phenomenon, legal politics will be unclear for quite some time. This was meant more as an experiment of what various free software amd a mobile phone camera could accomplish, and not trying to take away possible income for the artist.

LiquidBeef on Nov 4, 2012 said:

I'm curious about the politics of this as well.