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Print Surface Adhesion Test

by Enginwiz, published

Print Surface Adhesion Test by Enginwiz Apr 14, 2013

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To compare the adhesion forces of different tapes, hair sprays, slurries and build plate materials I designed this test print.

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Printing ABS at 215°C with Aquanet on a heated glass plate at 100°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Aquanet: 40 Newton

Part releases from the build plate when the plate cools down to a temperature below 80°C

Printing ABS at 215°C with Garnier Fructis #5 on a heated glass plate at 100°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 : 30 Newton

Adhesion force for three layers of Garnier Fructis #5 : part not removable - cracked the glass plate - CAUTION

Printing PLA at 215°C with one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 on a heated glass plate at 50°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 : 45 Newton

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Instructions

Prepare the build plate surface with your method and level it.
Print this test part with 100% infill onto the prepared build plate.
Pull with a force sensor in the direction of the Z-axis upwards.
Record the maximum force you need to pull off the test part.
Compare with other methods to keep the prints sticking to the build plate and publish your results in the comments of this thing or the user groups.

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Enginwiz on Nov 10, 2013 said:

Printing ABS at 215°C with Aquanet on a heated glass plate at 100°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Aquanet: 40 Newton

Part releases from the build plate when the plate cools down to a temperature below 80°C

Enginwiz on Nov 10, 2013 said:

Printing ABS at 215°C with Garnier Fructis #5 on a heated glass plate at 100°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 : 30 Newton

Adhesion force for three layers of Garnier Fructis #5 : part not removable - cracked the glass plate - CAUTION

Enginwiz on Nov 10, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 215°C with one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 on a heated glass plate at 50°C

Adhesion force for one thin layer of Garnier Fructis #5 : 45 Newton

Enginwiz on Nov 10, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 215°C with UHU glue stick on a heated glass plate at 50°C

Adhesion force for UHU glue stick: 60 Newton

Enginwiz on Nov 3, 2013 said:

Is the Suave 8x available in Europe? You could measure the adhesion force with a cheap luggage scale. I bought the black digital luggage scale for around US$ 10.

funkshin on Nov 7, 2013 said:

AAhhh, its called "Suave Max Hold Unscented Hairspray" and I saw it on amazon.co.uk. It helped me crack my first acrylic build plate in half while trying to remove a job. Thanks for the tip on the scale, I need one for the shop.

funkshin on Oct 31, 2013 said:

Fantastic. Any chance you feel like testing Suave 8x, it's my go-to. I'd love to see how it compares and I have no means to test release force.

whpthomas on Oct 30, 2013 said:

This is truly great work you have done here. Do you have any recommendations for printing ABS on the bottleworks glass HBP?

Enginwiz on Sep 9, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 215°C with UHU glue stick on a cold glass plate

Adhesion force for UHU glue stick: 35 Newton

The glue is water soluble. Use warm water to clean the
bottom of the printed part and the glass plate after printing.

Enginwiz on May 28, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 230°C with hair spray on Makerbots acrylic plate
three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet on the side
without logo:

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis Style Maximum Hold - 5: 150 Newton

Enginwiz on May 28, 2013 said:

Printing Laywood at 190°C with hair spray on a cold shiny glass plate
three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet:

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis Style Maximum Hold - 5: 35 Newton

Enginwiz on May 18, 2013 said:

Printing Laywood at 190°C with hair spray on a cold shiny glass plate
three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet:

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis Style Maximum Hold - 5: 35 Newton

Enginwiz on Apr 28, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 230°C with hair spray on Makerbots acrylic plate
three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet on the side
without logo:

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis Style Maximum Hold - 5: 150 Newton

Cooling down the acrylic build plate doesn't make removal of the printed part much easier. Even at -15°C the adhesion force is still at 140 Newton.

Enginwiz on Apr 28, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 230°C on Scotch 2090 blue painters tape
cleaned with window cleaning spray:

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis No. 5: 35 Newton

Enginwiz on Apr 28, 2013 said:

Printing ABS at 230°C with hair spray on a cold shiny glass plate
three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet:

Adhesion force for Aquanet Extra Super Hold 3: 50 Newton

Adhesion force for Garnier Fructis No. 5: 20 Newton

For easy removal of the part put the glass plate with printed part into

the fridge for one hour. At -10°C the adhesion force drops

to less than 10 N.

Enginwiz on Apr 28, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 230°C with hair spray on a cold shiny glass plate:

The adhesion forces for Aquanet Extra Super Hold 3 Unscented were:

Three layers sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet: 50 Newton

For easy removal of the part put the glass plate with printed part into

the fridge for one hour. At -10°C the adhesion force drops
to less than 10 N.

Enginwiz on Apr 15, 2013 said:

Wet-in-wet means no drying time before spraying on the next layer.
After the last layer wait 30 minutes before printing.

Tunell on Apr 16, 2013 said:

ahhh, wet on wet.
So why bother applying the hairspray crosswise if the previous layer is still wet?

Tunell on Apr 15, 2013 said:

what do you mean by wet in wet?
you don't let the spray dry between layers? If not, then why bother going crosswise? Why not just spray a pool on?

Enginwiz on Apr 14, 2013 said:

Printing PLA at 230°C with hair spray on a cold shiny glass plate

The adhesion forces for Garnier Fructis Style Maximum Hold - 5 were:

ONE thin layer sprayed from a distance of 150 mm: 5 Newton

TWO layers sprayed crosswise wet-in-wet: 40 Newton

THREE sprayed crosswise layers wet-in-wet: 110 Newton

The one layer coating was too weak to hold the edges of the print down during printing.

Between two and three layers the magic change occurs and the print firmly sticks to the plate. No curling or warping of the bottom layer.

Printed_Solid on Apr 14, 2013 said:

n=1? come on now, lets see some replicates : )

Cool idea for a test, maybe you could rig up something so you can control pull rate?

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