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Replicator Dual Head Fan Duct

by rhodeseng, published

Replicator Dual Head Fan Duct by rhodeseng Mar 29, 2013

Description

Fan duct to fit a dual head Replicator to stop the fans from blowing air on to the job as it prints. In my experience this duct reduces the chances of large structural parts de-laminating, warping, bending etc as they print.

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Its a terrible idea, first of all there isn't a heat problem with intake to begin with, and the reason you have a problem when using a fan is because the replicator 2 blows right onto the nozzle heater block, not the model, and thus makes the thermister go wild, it cant keep up to temp and the PID autoset during a print, takes several minutes to stabilize. You actually decrease the quality and ability to bridge and do solid infills without a fan. I assume you also have a non heated bed since you have so much trouble. Fans will make the outter layers flawless, and give near perfect bridges, even across 200mm. You need to get a design that hugs the nozzle, like a ring, and blows onto the tip, not the block. that's why you have layer adhesion problems, your print head is well below the temp its set at (about 8-10C colder, on average with fan on full - its a horrible design) This thing however, defeats the purpose of having a fan in the first place. it also reduces print area on some printers, including the Grid2 duel. This is terrible, I don't recommend anyone actually waste filament on it. Good that you can model, but don't go into engineering as a career bud... sorry to come off snarky but these machines, even though they've gone mainstream, aren't for average users. this is a toy for an engineer or well studied digital design student. You cant troubleshoot or fix the roots of problems without intimate understanding of the processes at work here and the behavior of materials. I suggest you get on youtube and binge watch for a week. If you got one just to print stuff without a background of some kind, I recommend you have a studied person who is familiar with the machines a whole, not just a specific model. Ask them to make the gcode for you, many will do it for free. If you wanna learn, great, but be prepared to lose sleep for months, these machines are extremely complex, if any one thing is slightly off, it doesn't work. I don't mind processing a models for someone. I even have settings already set for exotic filaments on a .4mm instead of .5mm.. I can even print LaywooD3 on a .4mm with no modifications and no clogs. Its all in understanding the materials.... and notes.. sweet Jesus the notes >.< .... lol

If you can revise your design with the tubes duct to extruders, so air is ducted to cool down the parts for bridging.

I see no one has commented or uploaded a make despite the almost 200 downloads of each file. I want to install this, but I always like hearing other peoples thoughts on such things. It is funny you mentioned not to turn your machine into art, that was part of my intention. Anyways I'm going to install one when I get around to printing all the pieces and will surely upload a make in a few days.

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Instructions

This is an "as is where is" design.

I quickly designed this part to help with a problem I was having in reliably printing large structural parts. These are parts that fill the print area and have been up to 80+mm high, also printed with a high fill (>60%).

There were many failed attempts to print these types of parts with the unmodified machine. It seemed to me that there is a good reason industrial machines have heated print chambers etc.

So as an attempt to get an improvement I covered the sides, front and top of the machine and these modifications produced better results but still not usable parts. This prompted me try adding this duct and was rewarded with my sanity and good parts.

WARNING: I used this duct with no problems until I updated the Replicator to V6.2, this caused a small problem when a job is started. The machine with this version moves to the far front left corner before printing, this caused the duct to collide with the top rim of the Replicator. This was fixed (like other things in my life) by taking a saw to the top rim of the machine (see attached image). If the M3 bolt heads used are high they can also collide with the left end of the front panel of the machine, further sawing can fix this as well. If these mods put you off do not bother employing this design.

The Duct has one inlet tube that splits in two internally in front of the fans and two outlet tubes, one on each side of the head. It was designed (before V6.2) to fit inside of the machine without colliding with anything (unfortunately V6.2 spoiled the party and a mod was needed). On the right of the duct is a thin section that sticks out over the position where the home micro switch hits (this was a fix as the right outlet tube was a little thick stopping the switch from working, I have added it to the design so I did not have to change the tube).

No real design was done on the flow of air in and out, it was design as it is as a guess as to what was needed, keeping in mind that sometimes only one fan runs. My machine has been working without fault for about 9 months with good result for the problems I aimed to fix.

There are six parts to make and assemble, I glued the parts with Acetone. There are two holes in the front top corners that two 31mm (cut longer bolts if needed) M3 bolts go though, these need a couple spacers (~2mm) on them before guiding them thought the holes in the fans and a nut added to secure them. I added a small bit of tape under the front to stop any leakage of air down on to the job though the gap.

It was printed on a MakerBot Replicator with the following setup:

Object infill = 30% (parts are very thin so anything will do) Layer Thickness = 0.333mm Number of shells = 0 Feed rate = 30mm/sec

Note: A saw could be used in the fitting of this part to your machine.... 1) Do not destroy your guitar career by modifying your fingers..... 2) do not turn your Replicator in to art.

Note: There is no guarantee this will make any difference or improvement to anything you print. I have convinced myself it works and that's the story I'm sticking to.

Note: Fit and use this part at your own risk!!!!!

Apr 2, 2015 - Modified Apr 2, 2015

Its a terrible idea, first of all there isn't a heat problem with intake to begin with, and the reason you have a problem when using a fan is because the replicator 2 blows right onto the nozzle heater block, not the model, and thus makes the thermister go wild, it cant keep up to temp and the PID autoset during a print, takes several minutes to stabilize. You actually decrease the quality and ability to bridge and do solid infills without a fan. I assume you also have a non heated bed since you have so much trouble. Fans will make the outter layers flawless, and give near perfect bridges, even across 200mm. You need to get a design that hugs the nozzle, like a ring, and blows onto the tip, not the block. that's why you have layer adhesion problems, your print head is well below the temp its set at (about 8-10C colder, on average with fan on full - its a horrible design) This thing however, defeats the purpose of having a fan in the first place. it also reduces print area on some printers, including the Grid2 duel. This is terrible, I don't recommend anyone actually waste filament on it. Good that you can model, but don't go into engineering as a career bud... sorry to come off snarky but these machines, even though they've gone mainstream, aren't for average users. this is a toy for an engineer or well studied digital design student. You cant troubleshoot or fix the roots of problems without intimate understanding of the processes at work here and the behavior of materials. I suggest you get on youtube and binge watch for a week. If you got one just to print stuff without a background of some kind, I recommend you have a studied person who is familiar with the machines a whole, not just a specific model. Ask them to make the gcode for you, many will do it for free. If you wanna learn, great, but be prepared to lose sleep for months, these machines are extremely complex, if any one thing is slightly off, it doesn't work. I don't mind processing a models for someone. I even have settings already set for exotic filaments on a .4mm instead of .5mm.. I can even print LaywooD3 on a .4mm with no modifications and no clogs. Its all in understanding the materials.... and notes.. sweet Jesus the notes >.< .... lol

If you can revise your design with the tubes duct to extruders, so air is ducted to cool down the parts for bridging.

I see no one has commented or uploaded a make despite the almost 200 downloads of each file. I want to install this, but I always like hearing other peoples thoughts on such things. It is funny you mentioned not to turn your machine into art, that was part of my intention. Anyways I'm going to install one when I get around to printing all the pieces and will surely upload a make in a few days.

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