Miniatures for War Gaming with DBA or FoG Rules

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Miniatures for War Gaming with DBA or FoG Rules by epengr Sep 14, 2011

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These are a selection of elements that can be used with the ancient miniature war game rules De Bellis Antiquitatis or the fantasy version, Hordes of the Things. They may also work with Field of Glory, but I'm not very familiar with that game system.

The most current version of these rules can be downloaded from the developers website (http://www.wrg.me.uk/) in the "History of WRG" section. They are planning to release a new version for sale later this year.

These rules are sol as rules only, leaving it to the players to acquire figures from whatever vendor in whatever scale they choose. So why not just print your own!

I settled on 10 mm scale after trying 15 mm and 6 mm. At 15 mm, the resolution limitations of the printer are rather obvious. At 6 mm... well, I just wouldn't want to paint 40 little men for one element of troops... 10 mm is a nice compromise and it give a good impression of massed troops.

So far I've uploaded 4 of the 16 element types in the game. I hope to design the rest and upload them soon. There are a few additional elements in HotT such as dragons and Behemoths that I may or may not tackle, but I encourage anyone interested to jump in and supply their interpretation of these units!


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You'll want to use the highest resolution you can. With my 0.4 mm tip I used a 0.2 mm carve with reasonably good success.

Oh, and I cheated a little making the cavalry - the riders intersect their mounts. Skeinforge noted the issue but turned out working gcode anyways, as usual.

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These would also work well for warmaster - also available for free:

I cannot find a link to a downloadable version of the DBA rules; the only I can see on the page you refer to is from before 1995 ie nearly 20 years old...

Great Design. Take a look at the following video at 2:22 there are some nice palm tree designs which would go well with your figures. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB4qOY3H5Mkhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

Oh, and thanks for the compliments!

It's been years since I was good at painting minis, and I've never painted anything this small before. It's very different than painted cast minis too, since you have to add detail instead of just bringing the detail that's there. If you wash or dry brush, you just bring out the layer lines...

Fancy! Nice paint job.

It's not "games workshop" quality yet. But guess you'll need to make some tradeoffs for ease of printing. And I think the scale is different then for warhammer, which are 20mm or 25mm.

I'm working on some DnD prop models. But I only have my printer for a few days, so no uploads yet till I get a w
orking print.

GW miniatures are actually closer to 32 mm, and even then tend to be distorted on the beefy side. These are little by comparison, and would never have the same detail.

Wait, these are 10mm in height? I was thinking you the 10mm was the width between figures. It's hard to judge scale without any reference object ;-)

Yep, each little guy is ~10 mm tall. For reference, the major grid on the cutting mat in the painted picture is 1"...

I will try to take a pic with a better reference in it.

10 mm you say? Reminds me of the good 'ol Warmaster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warmasterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W... :) Nice work btw and thanks for enlighting with the WRG (someone does that!) :)

Looking goooooood. I think I much prefer when you stop doing the thick cut out thing. 3D printers are capable of so much more than laser cut pieces. I wonder how much detail we could get out of them. Hmmm....

I've ordered parts to switch to a 0.25mm extruder tip, and I plan to explore just that. I'm thinking that with some more care modelling, 15 mm could look quite good.

The biggest issue is overhangs, you don't want to be trying to cut support material off all of those little men...