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E3D Titan / Ultimaker 2 mount

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E3D Titan / Ultimaker 2 mount by nakwada May 12, 2016
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Lets you print flexible materials gloriously well on your Ultimaker 2 :)

Tested with : Ninjaflex (original), Ninjaflex Semiflex, Filaflex

The second version is tougher. If your UM² is closed, do not print this part with PLA or it will melt because of the printer's internal temperature and heat from the motor.

Suggested material : XT, nGen or any other thermoresistant printable plastic

Modded top part to let cables out.

Still testing, more to come

Please leave your feedback :)

Imprimez des matières flexibles avec l'Ultimaker 2 !

Testé avec : Ninjaflex (original), Ninjaflex Semiflex, Filaflex

La seconde version est plus solide. Si votre UM² est fermée, ne pas imprimer cette pièce en PLA : elle va se déformer à cause de la chaleur du corps de l'imprimante et du moteur.

Matière conseillée : XT, nGen ou autre matière thermorésistante

Pièce supérieure de la tête modifiée pour laisser sortir les câbles.

Toujours en cours de test, plus à venir

Merci de me faire vos retours dans les commentaires :)

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Voici mon moteur :
http://hpics.li/742cec5

Les fils sont vert/bleu/noir/rouge, ils correspondent au Nema OSM sur la page 3 du forum alors que c'est un OSM pancake ...

Comment dois-je brancher alors ? Aidez-moi j'ai tous ce qui faut mais je ne veux pas griller quoi que ce soir ...Merci

Voyons cela en MP :)

Comments deleted.

Merci,

Si je comprend bien moi jai un pancake maises 4 fils sortent d'un petit trou, le moteur n'a pas de broche de connection en fait.
Dois je suivre lordre normal, les couleurs qui sont en bas sur ton schema ?
Merci davance

N'ayant pas ton moteur sous les yeux je ne veux pas te guider dans la mauvaise direction.
À priori oui, il faut conserver le bon ordre des couleurs comme sur mon schéma.

Je vais demonter le moteur poir etre sur :) merci en tout cas :)

Bonjour,

J'ai acheté le Titan extruder ainsi qu'a Nema Pancake mais quelques questions subsistent ...

  • Faut-il trouer le support avec son logiciel de CAO pour laisser passer tous les fils (J'ai imprimé celui là mais modifié, troué en fait, je vais le partager ) ?

  • Dois-je changer la partie la plus haute de la tête d'impression ?

  • Est-ce qu'en changer l'ampérage du E dans motion settings, cela sera suffisant pour que le Nema Pancake ne surchauffe pas, ou ventilateur obligatoire ? (Si oui comment le brancher, où prendre le jus) ? Sur quoi cet ampérage joue-t-il ? La force du Nema ? Le nombre de pas ?

Si vous avez des remarques à me faire à propos de quelque chose que j'ai omis, je vous en prie, c'est le bienvenu =)

Bonne journée,

Bonjour,
Je vais répondre dans l'ordre :

  • Pas besoin de trouer le support, j'ai mis dans la liste des fichiers une pièce modifiée pour le corps d'origine de l'Ultimaker (la partie noire), qui laisse passer les câbles.
  • Oui, il faut changer l'ampérage délivré au moteur. Autrement il surchauffe et le support fond.
    De plus, c'est mauvais pour le moteur. Pour ma part je l'ai baissé à 650mAh. Jusqu'à 750mAh ça passe bien et le moteur ne chauffe pas de manière excessive. Un moteur mal alimenté va "trembler", sauter des pas et perdre sa force.

Côté câblage, il faut faire attention car ils ne sont pas faits comme les nema 17 standard.
J'ai cramé un contrôleur de ma carte mère comme ça !
Va donc voir sur le forum, j'ai posté un petit dessin pour indiquer comment le câbler (sur cette page https://ultimaker.com/en/community/21313-support-e3d-titan-pour-ultimaker-2?page=3 )

N'hésite pas si tu as d'autres questions.

did change the firmware on utimaker ?

Hello tenij000

No I did not. I use Simplify3D as slicer and set extrusion multiplier up to 1.45 (for flexible materials).
Will share my .fff profile if you want.

sure cool give it a try

very cool. will this fit a ultimaker original ?

Thanks !
I don't have an UMO to try it out, but I guess it will fit, the top part looks the same size as on the UM².

Hi there :)

I'm going to work on a similar setup, i just didn't design the mount yet. But now maybe i don't need to design anything thanks!

Would be nice to see some pictures or timelapse of it

Hello, I updated the description, video and forum thread available !

Hello didierkl !

You are welcome, glad it helps somehow :)

I have pics and vids and just didn't take time to post it.

Also I am going to open a thread on Ultimaker forums tonight, I'll post the video on how to mount it properly and a test print session.

Stay tuned

Great :) you are on the french section also right? (I'm the moderator on the Ultimaker forum)

Yup, that's because I'm french ;)

Very interested in this conversion as well. Are you able to upload a picture of it installed?
Have you posted any updates on any forums or groups as well? I would like to follow.

Hello, I updated the description, video and forum thread available !

Hello AxisLab

I am happy you are interested. I have not opened any forum thread nor posted this design anywhere else, but I can start a thread on 3DHubs or Ultimaker forums and post pictures of the printed part, a "tutorial" video about how to mount it and test prints + timelapses.

Let me know what you'd like.

I know quite a few people would be interested in that as well. That would be great.

I asked the e3d team about an official UM2/titan set-up, as they teased it in their release video. They told me to keep an eye out over the "next few weeks", so it seems they are working on something as well. I just wonder if they have a bowden set up in mind, or full on e3D V6 direct drive, similar to this.

My end goal is direct drive, so this definitely has my attention.

Hello!

Thanks for the design!
Are you using a half-size nema like Lulzbot does for their DE?
Even with the half-size nema, I feel like it is too much for the UM2's gantry?

Have you had any problems?
Would love to see some photos.

Thanks,
MM

Hi Mudaseem,

Glad you like it :)

For the moment I use a standard nema 17 stepper because I don't have a pancake sized one.

I actually had two minor problems

  • first, the motor is a bit heavy, thus it is not recommanded to print faster than 60mm/s. Because of the weight, there is a lot of vibrations, and the print might look ugly or unusable.
  • When I print ABS or PC, I close the printer. The internal temperature can go up to 60°C or more. As I printed my part in PLA, and because of the excessive temperature (from both the extruder motor and the buildplate) it melted during the print. Fortunately I didn't damage my machine. That's why I recommend to print it with nGen or another temperature resistant material.

It went very well for flexible filaments though.
I just had to increase the material flow up to 145%

I ordered thin steppers, they are way lighter.

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