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Tilt-Shift Adapter for Canon EF and FD lenses to EOS-M and Micro Four Third Systems

by Empiricus Sep 10, 2017
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Hi.. If I understand correctly, the M43 version only allows for M43 camera, not M43 lenses, right?

Yes, this could not possibly work with four/third lenses.

Hello!
I own a Canon m6 but it has a hand grip on one of the sides.
Can i still use your Tilt-Shift adapter? Would it fit?
Kind regards,
Helder Ferreira

Unfortunately, it will not fit on that camera.

Thanks for your fast reply ;)
Are you willing to make some changes and add some new mount?
As you can see my M6 camera has a grip and the tilt-Shift system wont fit. But i have a EF-EOS-M mount adapter so i can use my EF and EF-S lenses.
I saw your files and "1_eos.stl" is the one that fits the tilt-shift system to the camera with EOS-M connection, right.
Could you make a similar file but with a EF connection so i may connect it to the mount i already have and use it on my M6?
Do you think this solution would fit? Do you think it could work fine?
Kind regards,
Helder Ferreira

PS: I'll send 2 pictures attached. One is the EF-EOS M mount the other one is a Canon M6 with this adaptor mounted

That would not work. If you want to use EF lenses they cannot be further away from the image sensor than 44mm. The adaptor uses the space between the EOSM mount and the flange focal distance for EF or FD. I made another adaptor for my EF mount Canons but then you need a 6x7 lens. https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2873818

Tilt-Shift Adapter for Pentax 67 to Canon EF

Hi, I'm a photographer and I like to print this model to use for architecture photography. Can you or someone show me photographs using this adapater? I would like to see some results.
Thanks!

Hi again ;)

Will you also do a Sony-E version ? It could be very cool, i will definitly use it on my A7ii

Same focal distance as EF-M mount - might be possible...although there is a grip isn't there?

Hi,

I'm a pro Photographer but also a maker, and this model will be my next project to print, awesome design, well done ;)

But i use as side camera some Olympus OMD ( m4/3 ), i have also Canon camera with L lens, could you do the same model but with M4/3 mount ?

Thanks a lot

I added a Micro Four Third system adapter. Completely untested as I don't have an M4/3 camera. Please print and see whether it fits.

You rock ! Thanks !
I will try to print it soon :)
Do you think you can also add more mount other than Eos ? Like M42 or other 35mm flange optics, or even medium format lens :) ?
Also what kind of filament do you use ? PETG maybe ?
I will maybe use the 20-35 L FD so it's a heavy lens, i need the mount to be secured as possible ;)

Thanks

Make sure you use the M43 V2 file I just uploaded. I use carbonfiber PETG as it does best for me in regard to dimensional accuracy and stability (Atomic filaments). Otherwise I would use PETG. Print slow. Where is the lens lock on the M4/3?

For the lens lock position, i use Olympus OMD EM5 MK II ;)

So is there any way to adjust the lens' depth to make it work on a 500D? I believe there is NOT, because I built a T/S lens, but not with this setup, it was a manual move lens. But you just about touched the focal plane with the lens, so I believe this is why it wouldn't work on that (is it because the 500D is a half-frame camera?)
Really interested in getting something like this to work, but I have no problem upgrading to a better canon if that's what it takes, because I love the challenge of photography and experimenting. So I already have the 24mm lens to start with.

Impossible with an EF lens on that camera. 500D has a Canon EF mount so all Canon EF lenses will leave 0 mm space obviously as they are made for the flange focal distance of EF which is 44mm. This works only if there is enough space between lens and camera to accommodate the mechanism to shift and tilt. So on your camera or full frame 35mm DSLR you would need a middle or large format lens. Not trivial also because of the camera grip, weight of these lenses etc to create an adapter you can print. Playing around with this in the moment though, so stay tuned.

OK, I'll definitely follow this one. I really enjoy photography and have a fisheye, but I'm ready to get a real T/S lens and do more.

I uploaded a Pentax 6x7 to Canon EF Tilt/Shift adapter Thing:2873818

Have fun. Canon released a whole set of EF tilt shift lenses that are very interesting but obviously professionally priced.

Yes they are!

This looks super cool! Nice job figuring it all out - I'd be pretty excited to try this out.

But, I have an EOS M6, not the EOS-M as was originally modeled. The M6 has a bump on the right side that looks like it might overlap with the base plate. I'm not sure, but would it be possible to adjust the design to accommodate for this?

I noticed that as well. Very difficult problem. Tilt and rotation maybe, shift improbable.
I looked at the M6. No chance adapting the current design to the small space available and maintain function.

What should I change in your design for my m43 camera?

I added a micro four third adapter. Untested as I don't have a 4/3rd. You could print that one and let me know if it fits.

What flange focal distance? What camera?

I am using Olympus EM5 MK II. Typical focal distnce here is 20mm. I would like to use it with Canon EF lenses.

Flange focal distance of the EOS-M is 18mm for EF 44mm. 26mm is the height of the EF adaptor. m43 is usually 19.25mm. One needs to be precise here. As such you would create the lower attachment ring (1_EOS.stl) with the right bayonet and ad 1.25mm height. The adaptor is designed so that you can easily exchange that part. However there is a bump on the right side of the EM5 II I think that would interfere with attaching the adaptor if it protrudes beyond the flange.

is there something similar even for bigger cameras like the 7d?

I uploaded a Pentax 6x7 to Canon EF Tilt/Shift adapter Thing:2873818

Great!!!! Really appreciate!!!! May I suggest/ask for an improvement ? If the ring that will be attached to the camera can be a separate file we can substitute it with a metal one or Take from an old lens as well in order to increase the quality. What do you think?

It is already a separate file. Everything is possible. The carbon fiber PETG is plenty strong though.

Not to my knowledge. Would be possible but not so easy as you would need to use middle or large format lenses and those get pricey particularly the wide angles. Maybe enlarger lenses would also do and I am testing whether the image quality would be useful. Canon released a whole set of new EOS tilt shifts that would fit the 7D but those are serious investments..

Yeah agree....thank you for your reply

I have an EF lens but does this work with the 500D?

No. You need an Canon EOS-M camera. This kind of adapter is only possible if you take a micro four third camera with short flange focal distance and use a lens with longer flange focal distance that creates a larger image than the sensor of the four third. The difference in flange focal distance between micro four third and full frame DSLR gives you the space for the tilt shift adapter. In this case 26mm. For a 500D there is not enough space as it has the same flange focal distance as the full frame DSLRs. One would need to design an adapter that uses middle format camera lenses.

Thanks for sharing!
Can you point me, what exactly I must change in this model to make it work with Nikon? Thanks

You would like to use a Nikon F lens on the EOS-M? That would mean adding a Nikon F mount to the top part.

Hi, is it possibile change the Canon rings and insert similar Nikon rings? Thanks

For sure. Flange focal distance for Nikon-F is even longer. However don't have Nikon-F lenses or cameras.

Wishing I knew how to model the changes neccesary to plop this on a Nikon DSLR. I had a lovely large format camera and really miss the TS fun.

Fantastic work you've done here all the same!

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Thanks so much. This works well as the field of exposure on the full frame lenses is larger than the sensor of the EOS four third system and the difference in flange focal distance gives you the space required. To create a tilt shift adaptor for full frame DSLRs one would need to use middle format lenses. Adding Nikon F bayonet to this adapter for mounting on EOS M on the other hand is easy and I may do one when I have time.

EOS-M has an APS-C sensor which is 22.3mm x 14.9mm (26.8mm diagonal) whereas a 4/3 sensor is 18mm x 13.5mm (22.5mm diagonal). Which is good, othewise your 24mm would have an equivalent field of view to ~50mm on FF. :-)

As you noted, one of the big difference between mirrorless and DSLR is the reduced flange distance on mirrorless; Nikon F lenses have a longer flange distance than both Cannon FD and EF lenses. Cannon EF-M lenses for the EOS-M have an 18mm flange distance,

Canon FD = 42mm
Canon EF = 44mm
Nikon F = 46.5mm

The problem with stepping up to the next format lens for the larger image circle is that it's difficult to get a short enough focal length if you want to use the shift for landscape. For longer FL, you can often find an inexpensive enlarger lens to use, esp. for short work, like macro where you don't need infinity focus.

Still lots of fun, esp if you don't need to spend much money on it.

PS what you're calling "field of exposure" is called "image circle" :-)

Yup it is fun indeed particularly using my old FD lenses that are 25 years old but still excellent.

ok, thank you so much