Basic Working 12 hole Ocarina (Remix) - Final Notes improved

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Basic Working 12 hole Ocarina (Remix) - Final Notes improved by Karuuv Jan 8, 2018


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EDIT: RobSoundTrack also made a fixed version of the Nimaid Ocarina -
his is available here - https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2755765
More EDITs: There's also a lower pitched version of V17 in the works: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2810366

V.6 SoundSample:https://youtu.be/6W6-l9NYwsU
V.10 SoundSample:https://youtu.be/FJdEca6Ykgg
V.17 SoundSample:https://youtu.be/Mz09SC4Y4mc

Version Notes

• V.1: High notes work, but are still airy.
•V.6: Angled mouthpiece and decent high notes. Sound sample included.
•V.10: Voicing wildly beaten to death. Ocarina is now more in tune to C5, but higher notes are still out of tune. Seems quieter. I might be mental.
•V.17: Voicing completely changed again: Tried to more or less recreate the shape on my clay ocarina. I have no idea if I like this one more or not. It is closer to being in tune.


The original model is amazing, but I had trouble getting the highest notes to play.
After a bit of research (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFuYeW_OxEg&t=204s - I decided this was a #3 C Ocarina. May be wrong.), I found that the voicing needed some slight adjustments, so I did a quick and dirty modification to get it working.

Since then, I've kept trying repeatedly to rebuild the voicing to get the high notes to perfection. I'm still not there, but I think it's improved some.
The tuning is also much improved, but I think still a little off on the highest notes.

Originally, I had made the airway exit more narrow. The tighter airstream should assist the reverberation of the instrument.
The labium lip is now further away from the windway exit. This should strengthen the high notes, and make the lowest note harder to blow out with added wind pressure.

In every version I tried to leave the voicing rounded, as I like the softer sound a round airway creates compared to the sharp sound a rectangular one makes. Tried to make the ocarina a bit quiet, but if anything I think I made it louder.

Until I finally printed one in wood - for whatever reason the windway feels smaller (it resists breath a bit more than the regular plastic ones) and in turn appears to have gotten quieter. Perhaps the secret to a quieter instrument this whole time was simply to narrow the windway some more?

Print Settings

Printer Brand:

Robo 3D







.2 MM, Matter Control Medium Settings




3 Perimeters/Shells.
1.8mm top solid layers.

Higher infill doesn't seem to affect the tone.

These were printed in PLA
The smooth one was sanded with 80 and then 400 grit sandpaper, then coated with 3 layers of Polycrylic Clear Satin wood finish. Was just curious how that would look, and honestly I think I rather like it.

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Whats with all the video snapshots?

When you add a youtube video to the description of a thing on thingiverse, it automatically adds the videos to that section. They should be playable videos from there, though, not just images.

Oh I see, sound samples. I liked the video explaining the ocarina in depth, keep up the cool work!

I will try and print your new design. Thank you for updating it again!

Hope it comes out and sounds great for you ^_^

Great design!! I am using the PRUSA MK2 to print this. Do you have any tips on removing supports from the inside of the ocarina, I cannot find any videos on youtube to show me how to do this. Instead of all on the Prusa slicer, it is called everywhere and that includes the inside of the ocarina.

For MatterControl, you'll want to disable "Support Everywhere"
For Cura, there's an option called "Support Placement" and you want to change that from "Everywhere" to "Touching Build Plate"

For Slic3r I'm less certain: It might be "Don't support bridges". Otherwise, you could try reducing the Overhang Threshhold until it stops generating them inside of the model? Unsure if that'll work, I've never used Slic3r personally, so I'm just guessing a bit from their documentation.

I really love your design. I print every version of yours.
Thank you for your hard work :)

Aww, thank you :)
I'm hoping to make a deeper tuned one as well in the near future.
I have a big airy sounding orange one sitting on my computer tower that's an early beta/proof of concept of it.

For this current version I'm planning to take a small break to actually enjoy it a bit. I'm finally printing a V17 for myself right now - every V17 I've made up to this point I've given away.

Hey man, it's great that you keep working on it! I still have some printing defect to work on with my printer, but for sure I'm printing a bunch of these for me and my friends.

Good luck with your printer! I remember when our RAMPs board power plug melted and our printer was out of commission I was going stir crazy, so I wish you a quick and effective fix :D

I'm still hoping to get this version better (If I can figure out how) and make different additional ocarinas in the future - deeper ones, and maybe different shapes are the current hopes.
Edit: Hah, the fan that cools my heatbreak just died - my printers out of commission until I can replace it. I must have jinxed myself with this comment XD

I cant beleive i havent been able to print the v10 to try yettttt. Maybe tomorrow. Is the 11 coming soon should i wait?

Actually on version 16 now, still not good enough to upload. Trying to recreate the voicing on my clay ocarina entirely into the model.

Love this! I printed the 5 hole and want to make one that has more range. I am super excited to print this!!

I hope it prints well for you :-D

V10 is the best sounding yet! (heard the sample)
Keep it up Karuuv!

I just made one- it's amazing! Thanks so much for sharing!

At the low range (A to top D), it's perfectly in tune. I'm sure with a bit more tweaking, i'll be able to sound the top E and the top F.


I'm happy you like it :)
Were the top E and F not working at all, Or are they out of tune? If not at all, which version did you print?

i printed the one you updated in february 2018. the top E and F do work, but they sound like Eb and E respectively.

Thanks for the feedback :) Was really worried the top notes weren't sounding on every/nearly every print. Would hate to find out my print was a fluke.

I'm working on getting those in tune now (V14 just finished printing) so I'm hoping to have those fixed in the next, possibly final, version... but the ocarina keeps ending up airy every time I try to get those last notes in tune/closer to in tune, so I'm doing a lot of voicing tweaking and trying to understand why it's happening.

Hey Karuuv, after you angled the mouthpiece, I noticed the airway points directly at the righthand thumbhole now, which may be the issue with the airy/flat E note. and then subsequent issue with the F afterward. Just maybe?

Oh no, I really hope that's not it, I really liked the angled mouthpiece but haven't been able to figure out how to angle the voicing without absolutely ruining the geometry.

I did re-tweak the windway pipe in the mouthpiece to try and make sure there wasn't an angle on the air-path in a later version, but not sure which one. Might have been 12? Attaching a picture of how it looks currently.
I had been "Testing" it recently by running water through the windway at a high enough pressure to see it shoot out and it seemed to be hitting the voicing edge in the center, but maybe water just isn't similar enough to be a good test?

I might re-straighten one on a failed attempt and see if that fixes it.
Thanks for helping look into it :) I really appreciate it.

Ahhhh i see what you are saying now. I should have inspected the model.
Ill be sure to print one and actually play it before try to give any more feedback!

I re-worked the inner windway again, because after I looked at it more there were some things about it I didn't like, which I think may have affected the direction of the stream slightly. Maybe. No idea.

Version 17 is up, with a sound sample. The voicing is now modeled to be as close as I can get it to my Clay ocarina, as I figured they had to have a reason for the shape they used, right?
Might have made it worse, not better - I really can't tell anymore.
Had a few difficulties with the microphone during the song recording which caused that weird "background static" sound during it. Not sure why, but it's a cheap 8 dollar microphone so I can't say I'm surprised :)

It should definitely be more in tune, at least. I think the only note that's out of tune is the top one is a bit flat still.

OOOoooooh!! I can't wait to try this!! (I can't even watch the video as I'm at work)
I didn't know you were going to work on it Karuuv or I would have gotten with you!!

After V1 I didn't expect to keep working on it but it's honestly kind of addicting.
I'm on Version 11 and it's still not right. Every time I try to get it closer to in tune it loses the high notes again.
V10 and V6 sound the best so far I think, but V10 has only been printed once so not positive how consistent it is.

It certainly took over my life for weeks on end!!
Keep up the hard work! I can't wait to try one

Uploaded a Version 10 sound sample as well - after hearing it recorded, I lost the high notes more than I thought on that model.
Version 13 will be getting tested tomorrow, if it passes it'll be up shortly thereafter :)

hey, nice work!

You should add a video showing how the ocarina sounds!

Planning to do so, but I wanted to wait until I was finally done tinkering with the model :)

Here you go!

Well, when are you gonna release the .38 model i need to play it now!

V2 is up - high notes are somewhat more stable but low notes are a bit 'off' I think - I didn't change the distance of the voicing, I changed the width of it to match the clay ocarina I have (Just got calipers, so I was able to do some measurements)

Going to keep trying to improve it, as well as angle the mouthpiece to make it more comfortable to hold while playing.

Hopefully soonish, in the mean time - it looks like another user also corrected the model for high notes (though he used the squared voicing model it looks like):
I printed it and it sounds great! Air notes are a little airy on the one I printed, but I had printing issues (My fault.)

Updated 12 Hole Ocarina
Comments deleted.

This one fully work :) but still need a little tweak :D

I agree, the second one I printed has airy-er high notes than the first. Still more hit or miss than I'd like.
I think it's because I tried to soften the volume - I should have just made the voicing window .38 inches instead of the .365.

Looking forward for your great work :)