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Parametric Music Box

by wizard23 Mar 8, 2013
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K00L! I am working on my own design for one though. I needed some math so I looked at your SCAD.

FYI you did not get "the unit conversion right" for E_PLA variable! Needs an additional *1000 somewhere!

The notes in the video were in the 4th octave. not 0-octave as it should be according to the SCAD. The extra *1000 fixes that.

I ended up looking up the value in GPa and converting. Came out to 3500000000.

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Tried a “His Theme” one someone made. Didn’t work, and the comb broke.

Wow this thing was great. Anyone want to revive it? I was going to make my own as I have a metal comb from a music box. Guess I'll just get the base file and pull my own pins out of the cylinder in Blender to get my tune.

This would probably sound amazing if used with a metal comb, would be interested to see one.

Is this thing completely dead? All links to the music generator are no longer working and the author doesn't seem to be responding to people's comments... :(

I'm very interested in designing a music box to play songs from star wars. I love this idea and the customizable aspect. The instructions are confusing to me and am very novice when it comes to music. Any help/suggestions?

it does work print at normal quality and 20% infill it does even print every thing

Is there a page to download just certain parts? the smallest gear shaft broke (the one that connects to the handle).

open the thing in the customizer thingiverse app and you can edit which parts you want

That doesn't work anymore. Gives an error, cannot find the original file. Disappointing because of all the remixes and this file, I finally managed to get everything to print but the cylinder and crank handle. I don't want to keep wasting filament because of failed prints just to get those 2 parts.

While Customizer is offline just use OpenSCAD ( http://www.openscad.org/ ) directly to generate the STLs. There are variables like GENERATE_CRANK that you can set to 1 or 0 to choose just the parts you need.

Is there a page to download just certain parts? the smallest gear shaft broke (the one that connects to the handle).

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Is there a current working music generator?

Not quite the same, but you may try this: https://tweilu.scripts.mit.edu/musicbox/

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Seconded. Will someone please work out a fix?

What are the print parameters? Infill, supports, etc? Thanks!

I think there's a bit that could be improved. This youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COty6_oDEkk shows how one of these work, and the comb part is actually weighted! I think there's a bit more to be improved, and I'd like to see files of the individual parts (I CAN'T GET RID OF THE MUSIC BARREL THING UGH). I'd like to see a standalone version of the note generator thing, as the links are all down, and I don't know how to read music that way or at all. I'd like to see MIDI to note standalone program so I can just copy paste it into customizer (when it works). An improved version with even just the weights would probably sound much better! I'm waiting until I can make my own songs on these or fix it myself somehow...

How would you make a 3D model customizable?

I've gotten to the editor with the wayback machine, but I cant get it to work. How do I use it? https://web.archive.org/web/20150524072734/http://magicshifter.net/oldold/musicbox/musicbox.html

i dont think the web genorator is working.

It still doesn't sound well, I already tried with 10% and 30% infill for the base.
Am I missing anything?
I'm using layer height .3

Looks like all the websites with the music generators are down :(
Any other ways to generate your own tones?

Hi,
How long can the song be? i am not a musician myself :p anyone can learn me how to made some disney song with this?
Thank!

Im not sure, but it would depend on the size of the cylinder. But you might be able to fit more of those square things on one, but you would have to wind it slower.

Just a guess.

I just made this music box in green ABS. Printed perfect the first time and plays the little French tune in a recognizable manner. Thank you so much for sharing this! :-)

the site is still down. and has ben for weeks. fix this

Hi, Philipp! I included your awesome customizable music box design in a challenge for the littleBits community to power music boxes with littleBits electronics. Here's the link to the discussion: http://discuss.littlebits.cc/t/make-music-boxes-powered-by-littlebits/22077

Come on by and say 'HI"! :)

Considering it'll probably take 3hrs to print and cost about $10, I would like to know the optimal print settings ahead of time. For fusion deposition printers, what settings should I use? Standard temp and extrusion rate? Can I scale it down without ruining it? Layer height? Infill density? Number of outer shells? Have a Replicator 2 which uses PLA.

Also, if anyone does a full loop of Song of Storms, let me know! :D

The idea is good, my schools printing club has one, but it is highly breakable and if we even manage to get any sounds, it is undeceipherable clacking...

I am trying to open this in the customizer, but I am not able. I keep getting an error message but to click elsewhere if I am using Safari (I am not). I have a song that I'd like converted, if anyone has the ability to help me out! Can someone please convert the intro of Tears for fears' Head Over Heels? Thank you to anyone in advance that can help figure out what is going on, or that can convert this for me.

I had the help of a music teacher, who fixed the song to loop in a nice way, deciphered it, put it into note form instead of sheet music, and even try the spacing for what is required in the generator...... neither of us can get to the page that fixes things for the generator. can someone please help me further?

G 2F#2E 2D 2E 2C 2G 2F#2E 2D 2E 2C 2
C 1G 1C 1G 1
G 2F#2E 2D 2E 2C 2G 2F#2E 2D 2E 2C 2
D 1A 1D 1A 1
A 1E 2D 2C#2A 1G 2A 2B 2G 2
A 0B 0C#1E 1C#1A 0C 1G 1E 1F#1G 1A 1
A 1E 2D 2D 2C#2E 2A 1
A 0B 0C#1E 1C#1A 0C 1E 1G 1F#1E 1E 1D 1C 1
D 2D 2D 2B 1D 2B 1F#2F#2E 2B 1E 2E 2B 1
G 0B 0D 1G 1F#1E 1D 1E 1F#1G 1E 1D 1B 0D 1
D 2B 1D 2D 2B 1F#2F#2G 2A 2B 2F#2
G 0B 0D 1G 1B 0D 1F#1E 1B 1A 1G 1F#1E 1D 1

pinNrX = 19;
pinNrY = 12;
teethNotes="G 0A 0B 0C 1C#1D 1E 1F#1G 1A 1B 1C 2C#2D 2E 2F#2G 2A 2B 2";
pins="oooooooooooXoXXXXoooooXooooXoooooooooooooooooooooXoXXXXoooooooXoooXooooooooooooooooooXooXXXoXXXoXXXXoXXXXooooooooooooooooooXooXXXoooooXXXXXXXXooooooooooooooooooooXooXXXoooXoXooXXXXooooooooooooooooooooXooXoXXXXXoXooXXXXXXoooooooo";

I don't know if this is the correct information.

I like the idea. Has anyone of you ever seen something similar to generate vintage 3D printed vinyl records that can be played with a simple 3D printed turntable? I just want to play a short message or kind of morse code... Any information is appreciated (pm).

Just printed two of these, and I'm experienceing some problems that may be with my printer of filament choice. When I attempt to place the smallest gear, it is very hard and then after pressing enough force, the standoff for the crank breaks off. Is it my filament, my printer, or my inexperience? Any help appreciated...

great Christmas present!

Amazing idea! do the pins break after repeated use?

Has anyone yet come up with a design to make replacement customized drums for metal music boxes?

Should I use raft, or will that break the pins when I try to take it off?

Absolutely amazing design. Made "Happy Birthday" for my friend, he loved it :)

I am however having trouble previewing tabs under the "enter your melody here" section with the new notes editor.

It loads the soundfont but won't play like it used to.

Any ideas?

could you please publish a file for the drum for that song?

could you please publish a file for the drum for that song?

I have the same question as travisyeow. how exactly does it work? I am choosing an mp3 file as source...
thanks for your help

Edit: one needs to upload a .mid file and make sure one does not have a loooong song. then just copy the 4 pieces of info in the quotes to their respective places

I'm not entirely sure how this works. If I click "choose file" and add a mp4 file will it load the song?
Note: Trying to recreate the Suits song Greenback Boogie

This thing looks awesome! I want to print a custom one but am confused. I have all of the notes in the generator and the generator seems to work, but how do you change the rhythm of the song and how does it know the order of all the notes if you have 2 of the same note in your song. Just looking at the output of the generator it doesn't look like there is any information that tells openscad to space pins farther apart for whole notes etc. nor is there any indication that the melody I entered is being represented just a few of the notes contained therein. Is there a tutorial or a few examples that I can look at

its in the string: one character for each note (present X, not present .)

I'd love to see you go on to put up a website of the 'enter a youtube url to download the mp3' kind, but instead it gives you an STL file that you can print, giving you the music on a cylinder. Old school piracy.

It's on my todo list. ATM i'm concentrating on my new open source hardware start up: http://magicshifter.nethttp://magicshifter.net ;)

I would love to make the xylophone notes to Gotye "Somebody I Used to Know" but am musically inclined :(

its:

c c g g a bflat c a g

f f e e d d c

c c g g a bflat c a g

d d e d

Really great design! :) I would like to print one myself with a custom tune, but it seems like the link to your website is down :(

Can you make it play a custom configured tune?

Hi!! It's an amazing idea and i really want to print one, with a special melody as a present for a good friend. The problem is that the links for customizing the melody are not working!! please help me! can you repare the links? or can anybody tell me any other way to find the parameters for a particular song??
Thanks a lot!!!

My old server died :( But now I updated the first link and you can use it again :)

can you put up a download for each individual part? i really want to print this, but my machine has problems with larger prints

I don't understand how to make the songs with this. Can someone please link me to somewhere I can learn enough to make some zelda songs please?

did the music generator sites get shut down by the song police or what?

Every time I print this, the main chassis messes up...it works on printing the gears, then comes back at a higher Z-axis to print the rest of the chassis, which is too far away to adhere to where it last drew. this appears to be a problem in the gear area of the chassis.

So the fit works just fine if you print in ABS because it all shrinks together, but the sound is crap and the pins don't last a day. Gonna try a PLA case in a bit. I suspect PLAs rigidity will work in it's favor with this one. Expect a writeup when I have more.

PLA sounds much better and doesn't seem to crack as bad, tho that might be because I was turning the crank the wrong way at first over stressing the ABS tines.

WOW bad arse!! One of the video above have it playing happy birthday...would you have a link for a printable version of that please sir??

Birthday Music Cylinder

wow great! thanks again!! Kerry

Can anyone do a 'Game of Thrones" theme sone in the customizer? I would,but I have several disadvantages:

1) don't have the sheet music.

2) couldn't read it if I did.

3) tin ear

It doens't have to be perfect, see #3, above.

I'm currently printing Winterfell (http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:39680)http://www.thingiverse.com/thi... and A little music to go with it would be perfect...

Winterfell
by damm301

Its Done! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:70518http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

if you can please post a video of how it turned out still waiting for my printer to come in.

Game of Thrones Opening Theme Parametric Music Box
by Ansarum

Sweet! WinterFell isn't even done printing yet! I'll be printing this tomorrow. Thanks Ansarum!

actually yea! I will start the hunt and get one made... cus i want one too now lol

Sorry for the delay, but it's not working so far. I printed it in PLA, and the 3 of the 6 tines broke off on the first turn. I'm going to try again in ABS (a bit more flexible). Also, it seems pretty high pitched. (the three remaining tines sound like 3 clicks...) can you drop it down to a lower key?

Sorry for the delay, but it's not working so far. I printed it in PLA, and the 3 of the 6 tines broke off on the first turn. I'm going to try again in ABS (a bit more flexible). Also, it seems pretty high pitched. (the three remaining tines sound like 3 clicks...) can you drop it down to a lower key?

Sorry for the delay, but it's not working so far. I printed it in PLA, and the 3 of the 6 tines broke off on the first turn. I'm going to try again in ABS (a bit more flexible). Also, it seems pretty high pitched. (the three remaining tines sound like 3 clicks...) can you drop it down to a lower key?

Sorry for the delay, but it's not working so far. I printed it in PLA, and the 3 of the 6 tines broke off on the first turn. I'm going to try again in ABS (a bit more flexible). Also, it seems pretty high pitched. (the three remaining tines sound like 3 clicks...) can you drop it down to a lower key?

We have planed to print it as soon as possible, props

Nice design! I've really wanted to print it out and I've tried twice, but for some reason it won't stop curling =\ anyway to fix?

Are you printing PLA or ABS. I use PLA and it does not curl at all. With ABS you'll probably neet a heated build plate becaue it's quite big but I have not tried it out in ABS yet.

I'm using PLA on a makerbot replicator 2, but it's still been curling, I'm not sure why, I've tried printing it again, and it did the same thing. I also made sure the build plate was leveled if that helped any.

Also, another thing, when using the musicbox link, my output for pins is always XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, do you know why?

I just tested the musicbox link and for me it works as expected. Are you using multiple lines? If you write all the notes in only one line it will generate a "sequence" with only one timeslot in which all notes are played. That is the only way how it could only generate XXXXX assuming it has no bugs ;)

Since it is written in javascript there might be some issue with the browser you are using. It has been tested on current firefox and chrome versions. but because it's only string manipulation I don't really think it's a browser issue.

About the curling I don't have any experience with the replicator 2 but my general debug technique would be: does it curl with smaller objects too? can you print the comb for example that should come with the SD card (I just saw the comb in the manual) for example?

oh thanks so much!! I'm making a music box that is playing für elise. The curling only happens on circular objects and narrow rectangles. I will try to lower the temperature from 230C to 225C and slow the extruding speed.

ha ha this is top shelf!

Feature request: for the web app that helps you generate the notes, add support for having multiple pins of the same note when there are multiple notes right after eachother and alternate the teeth between them. That would help prevent teeth that are too close together! For the mary had a little lamb box I made, I need to significantly increase the size of the cylinder to get the teeth spread out properly. (or manually go back and figure out the multiple pin notes idea)

very good idea! that should allow for much longer songs, and it's rather easy to implement! It's on my list now :)

I just saw this thing live, and it sounds really good when you put a resonator chamber like a shoebox underneath.
awesome ^-^

I printed this out and it is even better than I had anticipated.
One suggestion for future development would be a bottom flat piece to set into. The walls by necessity are thin but they flex a lot when you turn the crank. A bottom piece could both give it some rigidity and make a sound board.

I also had my one corner (across from the smallest "key") keep separating from the build platform (2/2 prints on makerbot replicator 2), so that would probably help there as well.

Suggestion...Hollow the cylinder out, that is so much plastic even at 10% infill. And it would take so much less time to print out and do the same freaking thing. "Optimize that plastic usage fool!" -Mr.T voice

I should have noted that I use very sparse infill (10%) on the whole object on of course especially when you only print a cylinder. But this is a very good suggestion, I'll add it tonight :)

I just added support for writing a name on the music cylinder :)

I uploaded a video of it actually playing the first measures of the song "Frère Jacques": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlovenI9xQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...
the Music Cylider was made with Customizer and can be found here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:59242http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

"Frère Jacques" Music Cylinder for Parametrized Music Box

Here is a video of it playing the song "Frère Jacques"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlovenI9xQhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

The music cylider I used in the video is here: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:59242http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

"Frère Jacques" Music Cylinder for Parametrized Music Box

awesome thing!
only thing i would change or add is a resonant chamber around the pins and maybe a amp Horn like the ones for iphones.

for resonance I now put them on a big cardboard box. The seem to resonate much better than any table or other surface I found in my home. I have to confess I don't know to much about music so I don't really know how to construct a resonant chamber. Using an external chamber seems like the best way to me though because I could never print something as big as a cardboard box.

Hi, we just fixed the bug that was causing this script to fail to show a preview! Problem is, now that the preview is working, it's showing the music box really small. This is due to the way the preview image is generated and unfortunately we don't have a quick fix. It is caused by hidden geometry (often part of a difference operation) that is a shape that is really large. Although the shape can't be seen, it contributes to the zoom factor. So if you could adjust your design now that you can see it (!) to reduce that unseen geometry, that would rock. Also, you might want to use the multi stl output features of Customizer, see: http://customizer.makerbot.com/docs#multihttp://customizer.makerbot.com...

Also, this is a really awesome script! I can't wait to print one myself.

Wow! kthnx for this extremely quick customizer update! I totally understand what you say about the tiny build plate and I HAVE such huge difference blocks in there. so I will just clean up the code to make the perspective better ;)

Awesome! Made my own little version now, now I just have to print it.
Note: in the version for printing, the crank touched another part, I had to move it a bit

Guess you are the first one to try it out apart from me yet :)

Looks like you customized yours while I was changing the case design (and therefore had to move parts on the plate). Does your version's case have a gap where the music cylinder is? How easy or hard is it to exchange the cylinder or assemble the gear? Or did you change values like the wall or number of teeth and it overlapped?

Very curious to find out how it works for others :)

First of all, this is awesome. But I tries to customize it, and it says "error in line 824" EVERY TIME I TRY. How can i solve this? It doesn't let me generate an STL file!

I would be interested: Does the generating of an STL file really not work for you or did you not ty this because of the error message? For me STL generation works...I'm working on getting the preview fixed...

Never mind :P I understood my error : Somewhy, I have to put and X in the FIRST note of the melody on the first dot... I have on idea why but that gives no errors and also i managed to get preview :D
Anyway, Thnx for being awesome and making this !

I can reproduce what you say. For the customizer preview the first character must be an X. But if you do it in OpenSCAD it does not matter at all what the first character is. I think this is another instance of a bug in customizer that got (partially) fixed yesterday.
="thingiverse-ffeed84c7cb1ae7bf4ec4bd78275bb98:disqus" href="http://disqus.com/thingiverse-ffeed84c7cb1ae7bf4ec4bd78275bb98/tbuser : I think this is another instance of the bug you fixed yesterday. Can you reproduce this?

As a work around for now until we can fix it, you can use a character other than . as the place holder. I've been using underscores instead.

tnx! Now I understand! By chance I took the one "invalid" character ;) I updated the default parameters and I implemented the workaround in the generator, it now uses 'o' instead of '.' http://www.wizards23.net/projects/musicbox/musicbox.htmlhttp://www.wizards23.net/proje...

Yeah looks like a bug in customizer, it's thinking its a number instead of a string.

I know! that's what I wrote in the text above: customizer gives you this error message and no preview :( BUT it will still generate the STL correctly: I just "customized" the music box (with the default parameters) and it made the STL. Here it is: http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:59104http://www.thingiverse.com/thi...

Printed Music Box: Complete Build Plate of the Default Parameters

Whis is just mindblowing!

Amazing stuff but looks like you may have an issue somewhere in the SCAD as customizer reports an error on line 367.