Perpetual Motion Test - Da Vinci Overbalanced Wheel

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Perpetual Motion Test - Da Vinci Overbalanced Wheel by idea_beans Mar 19, 2013


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After watching this video on YouTube ( http://youtu.be/287qd4uI7-E ), which looked very convincing to me, I had to make one overbalanced wheel myself to see if I can get it to work... Here's a video of me trying to make it turn... Epic fail!

I must have done the design incorrectly or something... if anyone has any idea how to make it work like in the YouTube video, please let me know. Otherwise this thing is just another cool desktop ornament!



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First machine (flask) suggests it is all fake.
Just notice the time between fluid entering lower support arm and leaving it.
This time difference supposes there are tubes inside the arm and a pump under the table.

Given that (and thermodynamics laws as well) all other machines are fake too.

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posibly to scale it down?

The law of conservation states that no energy is created, but when that thing spins it is giving off energy as heat. The only way to replenish that energy is to have some force push it along. Good design Though!

You can make it work, you just need to visit a reality with different laws of physics. :)

I also thought that video was real at first, but just so you know, every video by veproject1 is fake, for entertainment only.

I printed this model but doesn't work.

Any recomendation?

Spoiler alert!!!
They will not work, it would break the laws of physics.

You need weights that are heavier

Without even watching the video, just looking at the preview photo, the fact that the bottom of the wheel is buried in the "support" platform suggests that there is something inside driving it. Not a good fake at all. If you work hard enough, you can get a device that spins on its own as long as any other simple flywheel, until friction gets the best of it, which it will even in the vacuum of space.

Just throwing this out there, you could get it to spin forever in a vacuum, if you suspended the wheel using super-cooled magnets. Of course this does render it useless, but it would still be cool.

Seems it would take a lot of energy to maintain the necessary perfect vacuum (which outer space is not) and supercool those magnets to allow it to run forever. Ultimately, that would make it a sort of heat engine, I imagine.

With the number of these thing on youtube and here, why hasn't someone stepped up and started raking in the cash? Why is everyone who is working on one of there always "just around the corner" and asking for money? This should be an every day thing by now. Good Lord! If DaVinci studied this extensively 600 years ago, why is everyone on the edge of success after such a long time? Could it be that this really is not possible and that the laws of thermodynamics and physics really are true? Someone needs to wake up and smell the toast burning.

thanks, I had to make a couple of mods but it does work. to the tool that said this would never work and that you would be a multi- billionaire. Where do I pickup my cash.

Main issues with the design was the weight, the main shaft the wheel sits on is plastic and the shape of the wheel spokes. Nothing a little filing didn't fix and a little steel.

I am working on another model that will give you "Perpetual motion" that will still work if there is a little friction so it will be 100% printable. I say "Perpetual motion" as it will only run for as long as the plastic will last due to wear and tear/ friction however it should take at least a year before you have to start replacing parts (as they are plastic).

I think the main reason a lot of people comment and say that this will never work is that they think when someone says this "3D printed" model made in "Plastic" is literally a shining example of a perpetual motion machine. Reality check people, a plastic machine that has been printed would be a prototype at best so stop putting people down for their great designs and hard work.

Can you share your new model of this.
I am going to print this today any tips

You are ignoring the fact that the "tool" you are referring to cited a principle well known within the physics community, and judging by your response it seems that you have never even looked into said principle. I'm not at all deriding you, I actually like what you have made. However, simply because people are saying that the overbalanced wheel is impossible, does not mean that we are referring to the fact that it is 3D printed. Even a "shining example of a perpetual motion machine" would not work. No one is putting you down, they are just refuting the idea that this will work. I believe this may be a better investment: http://funny-pictures-lol.com/765/infinite-energy-cat-motorhttp://funny-pictures-lol.com/...

no it won't work, ever that's basic physics, and one of the first question to physic student "why this kind of machine can't work ? " short statement "perpetual movement can't work because of the thermodynamical principle" with addition "since the time these machines are in the books, if they can work, somebody surely had made one work, but it never happened", third: if you can make one working your are the next nobel prize in physic and the future multi billonnaire at the end of the year

I made one, and it worked in outerspace, I started the whole thing spinning, and last I checked it hasnt stopped.

Thanks for all your comments and insights to why this one doesn't work! My next project will be making the other version of overbalanced wheel with arms knocking down along one direction to make it spin. Maybe I'll have more success on that one?

More weight = more friction to overcome and back to square one. Fact is there is always friction. The only time these machines work is in a perfect vacuum with a perfect surface where contact is made and neither of these is achievable. Even if it was it would never be able to drive anything as that draws energy and it is not producing energy, just holding onto what it was originally given. think of them as a momentum capacitor. That is of course if they could be made in the first place.

This being said there is one place where you will find the closest to a perpetual motion machine and that is an electron spinning around an atom.

It's a cool desk toy, but can never possibly work. It's not a matter of tweaking anything, it's just that it would break the laws of thermodynamics if it works. The torque due to the balls is zero on average, so the end result is just a pretty wheel that slows down.

It will never work but it's a beautiful design, well done!

Just so you know, everything in that video is a fake/illusion. None of them are actually working on their own. If you'll notice the opening screen says "Visual Education" and the description/title says "Hypothetical". They built all those devices with motors in them just to visually teach people how they are intended to work.

As far as the over-balanced wheel goes, I like the idea behind, and the theory is pretty good, but I think even in a frictionless environment I still don't think it would work because even though the weights are farther out on the left side, hence providing more leverage to turn the wheel, there are more weights on the right side, balancing out the leverage from the left. That's my theory anyways.

hmm it might be that the white pieces need more weight, thats about all i can think of. The video is very convincing but some of the stuff seems to run suspiciously smooth a times so who knows.

You've gotta mount it in a box with a small motor inside. Have that wired to a free energy generator and then boom it will run perpetually! Of course you have to wire the free energy generator to a perpetual motion device so that it can run your perpetual motion device. Obviously you need two of these prints working in tandem. And then you need to wire that to a free energy generator.....